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mick7945 asked in PetsDogs · 1 decade ago

Chain training collar with small dogs such as chihuahua?

I have used chain training collars for my positive/negative training form for a while. I have a friend who has an aggressive chihuahua and I was wondering if you should deal with an aggressive small dog the same way you would with a larger dog; with the use of a chain training collar. Or does it being smaller make a difference, even though they come in the size fit for a chihuahua and the strength for such a dog.

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Update:

Im not going to have another trainer train what i can. I am perfectly capable of "all positive" training a dog, even though I don't believe it is the do-all be-all.

Update 2:

What about small dogs in general? terriers, corgis, etc.

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    I am suprised by the BS I'm seeing here. A choke collar is a fine tool when used correctly for ANY BREED OF DOG. So it's good for a German Shepherd but dangerous for a Chihuahuas teeny little neck? Well you're right, if you go jerking on it like you would a German Shepherd!!! The key here is common sense in noting a sharp little tug is a pretty BIG correction for a 3 pound dog. I prefer prong collars though, less chance for human error as they do not fully constrict and can not cause a collapsed trachea which seems to be the main concern here. But here's the second "concern" an aggressive dog DOES need a choke collar/dominant dog collar on at ALL times. A dominant dog collar is simply a tighter fitting choke collar. It's designed to take the air away from an aggressive dog who is actively attacking someone or something. If a dog can not breathe he can not bite. You don't jerk the collar you simply lift straight up and pull the dog's front legs off the ground which gives it no choice but to release what it's attacking. Of course it's VITAL to have a dominant dog collar on a human aggressive or handler aggressive German Shepherd Dog right? But because chihuahuas are sooo tiny and cute they don't need it right? Wrong, a Chihuahua might not be able to kill you but it can hurt you, BAD. I know a little girl who literally had her cheek removed thanks to her grandmother's ill-mannered chihuahua. Also I have a chihuahua jack russ mix who is a rescue and was ill-tempered himself when I first got him...that's just a side note for those who may think I only work with big tough dominant GSDs all day and have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to "normal" dogs...a dog is a dog, sound training is universal. Breed means nothing, temperament means everything. Good night!

    Source(s): I'm a professional GSD breeder/trainer.
  • anne b
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Toy breeds should never be trained with that kind of collar. Injury to the trachea is very common in toy breeds, and in addition, many badly bred toys have issues with collapsing tracheas to begin with.

    There is a BIG difference between aggression and just plain lack of socialization. I find that toy breeds are allowed and encouraged in these behaviors, which look like aggression, but are actually learned behaviors from owners who don't know any better. I seriously doubt the dog has aggression issues.

    If you are a good trainer, you should be able to figure out how to retrain this without having to resort to such inappropriate measures on a tiny dog.

    And yes, this includes ALL toy breed dogs. It is to be noted that Corgis are NOT a toy breed, or even thought of as a small breed.

    Personally, I am not a fan of check chains to begin with. They can cause injuries to other breeds if used incorrectly. If you really have an issue with pulling, which is the ONLY reason I would even consider this, I would rather see a prong collar used. And neither of these collars is used to train out aggression, so I kind of doubt your experience level.

    Edit: I will say again that check chains and prong collars are NOT tools to be used to train out aggression. If anyone is using those tools to "control" aggression, that does not solve the problem and is a waste of time. Most dog owners have no idea how to utilize either of these, so to suggest them to train aggression is foolish and bad advice.

    And yes, Chi's are allowed bad behaviors by many owners, but once again, that is not aggression, it is lack of socialization and poor training. Real aggression is something quite different. A dog that needs to be "controled" all the time with a collar to protect the public should be euthanized.

    Source(s): owner of toy breeds-have trained out aggression
  • 5 years ago

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  • ?
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    No, Chihuahuas are very prone to Collapsing Trachea. You shouldn't use a choke collar on this breed.

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    Mostly toy breeds are prone to it including the Pomeranian, Papillion, Maltese, & ect. This is why harnesses have become more popular with small breed owners.

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  • 1 decade ago

    http://articles.directorym.com/Dog_Training-a99021...

    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Dog-Training-3333/dog-p...

    http://www.dogremedies.com/dangers_choke_pinch_sho...

    These are just a few. Don't use chain collars, use positive training methods because they create a stronger bond between owner and dog. Get the dog some training classes. Small dogs are often not trained because they don't think they need it or can't do what larger dogs can do. Smaller dogs need it more. Get this dog in an obedience class and you'll see a world of difference. Petco and Petsmart have positive method training classes.

  • 1 decade ago

    I wouldn't do it.They have such delicate necks,and they are prone to collapsing tracheas,anyway.I would use a harness and just be firm.That's how I'm training my 4 month old Chi,and she is doing beautifully.

  • 1 decade ago

    Never use a chain collar for any of the toy group breeds. Corgis are not toys. some terriers are too small, and others are large.

  • 4 years ago

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    Source(s): Dog and Puppy Training http://dogtrainingclasses.emuy.info/?7qlC
  • Chetco
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    A chain collar is likely to cause a collapsed Trachea, in any toy breed.

    I recommend this method:

    NON- CONFRONTATIONAL DOMINANCE PROGRAM (or "no free lunch") http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/training.h...

    http://www.pbrc.net/training_nfl.html

    ( the first link is simplified, and the second one gives more detail and the reasoning)

    Combine that with this one, specifically for dealing with aggression, and you will have a successful combination:

    http://www.clickertraining.com/aggression

    Safe, Easy, and Effective.

    Source(s): btdt
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    you can break its neck like that

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