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Christians, how can John 3:16 be compatable with Romans 9?

Does God love everyone? If so, why is Esau hated in the womb? Did Christ die to redeem that which the potter chose to make as a vessle unto dishonor? How could He act against His own will? Also, after reading Romans 9: Does human "free" will exist?

Update:

Charles, you are correct. What I am asking is how that relates to the popular understanding of John 3:16 and human free will choosing salvation.

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  • ?
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    He hated Esau because he traded his birth right for something to eat. Which God knew he would do before he was born. It is the same way when we trade our birth right as children of God, for that which can not sustain us in life, or death. He is not acting against His will but with it, since He has known from the beginning of time what choices we would make. He also knows if we will eventually, given time will choose life, or death, and because of His great love for us shows mercy on those of us who will choose life. He could at anytime let us die in our sin, and be lost to the depths of hell, yet He endures with great mercy and grace knowing that one day we will see the light. (verses 15-24) And, it is these verses that show the compatibility to John 3:16. Yes, you have free will, for though God waits knowing one day you will see the light, you still have the choice of following Him once you know the truth, or not, (see Hebrews 6:4-6).

  • ?
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    I think it's obvious, God didn't love Esau, and He doesn't love everyone, only those who obey Him. So tradition is wrong.

    I think it's also obvious that God's love is conditional. Not unconditional. Jesus said that the Father loved him because . . . a condition. That is conditional love. So I reject tradition again.

    John 10

    17 "The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again."

    John 16:27

    No, the Father himself loves you because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God.

    I find it compatible with John 3:16 because Kosmos has more than one meaning. Kosmos is the Greek word for "world" in John 3:16.

    Kosmos can mean parts of the population, not always all of the population. It can mean the trees and the stars if you use it a certain way. But in the way Jesus indicated in John chapters 14-17, he is referring to the non-believers. In John 3:16, He means the chosen, those who would be believers.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    God hated Esau because of his actions in the world that was. As far as free will goes, God gave free will to those who were deceived by satan during his first rebellion. Everyone else was chosen, predesdined and foreordained.

  • 1 decade ago

    ...you really should (re-read) Romans 9 vs.14 thru 18.

    Source(s): ...Salvation is from the Grace of God...not the mind of humans... Ephesians,Ch 2 vs 8 & 9
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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    God doesn't exist so he can't love anybody...

    Babies wouldn't be born severly disfigured and die if there was a God...

  • 1 decade ago

    It can't, and anyone who tries to make sense of the bible will find themselves on a futile pursuit.

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