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To The Anti-Gay Marriage Crowd: A Simple Answer To A Simple Question...?
In spite of the number of comments I've heard IN PUBLIC leveled against interracial couples by other couples, both white AND black, you continue to insist that the racial argument in the marriage issue is irrelevant...that a pairing of a black man/white woman or a black woman/white man is still "one man and one woman", and therefore fits YOUR definition of what's "okay."
So, let's hear from DOMA advocates who can actually chew gum and walk at the same time, as well as spell and complete sentences that can actually make sense. Comparatively speaking, what is it about seeing a long term gay or lesbian couple vs. an interracial couple that makes you say, "Okay, the two guys/two girls are devaluing the worth of my marriage to my wife/husband, but the salt-and-pepper couple is okay."
I want to hear PERSONAL reasons, not Scripture quotes. (But watch some troll post complete Bible chapters anyway.)
@Rocko003: You'd be surprised. I posted this question here, because at times it seems like the GLBT Forum is the ONLY place the anti-gay trolls hangout. My guess is it's too boring over on the forums where they belong - how can they rant in a place where everyone does nothing but agree with them?
@SDPark: People also use the Bible to justify their prejudices as something "ordained by God." Check your history. The Bible has also been used to justify slavery, lynching and segregation, amongst other evils.
@designer: It would be a little difficult for me to be against interracial relationships, since mine has lasted 14 years. If I'd been married to a woman, it probably wouldn't have lasted 14 HOURS.
@9121: Nice deflection with all the "Home Depot"-style comparisons. Does it still answer the question? No, it doesn't. And anyone with common sense knows that what you say in public and what you say in private are two VERY different things...especially when you think nobody's listening. Anyone can swear up, down and sideways that they think interracial relationships are okay, and then when they're with a select group of like-minded "friends", say what they REALLY think, which usually goes something like: "Well, no, I don't like darkies mixing with our pure white women, but I'll give them a pass before the queers and lezzies. That's just WRONG."
@Thius: That simplistic reasoning doesn't hold a single drop of water. Because using YOUR logic, the case of that man in Berlin who used his daughter as a sex slave for years while he held her captive is 100% a-okay with you. After all, THEY could and did procreate, because it was a man and a woman. So IS that what you're trying to say? That even "incest is best" before being gay?
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- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Hey Dreamchaser, look - you were right... no one can give an example.
Imagine 50 years ago when we had the civil rights movements, that i could bet you that not one caucasian married hetero couple in Georgia suffered in the LEAST from an interracial couple marrying in California.
Same difference now.
DOMA supporters please consider reality and the fact that you are shooting yourselves in the foot when you don't even realize that your own friends, family and children could be gay... but they will never tell you for fear of retribution (just ask my parents). Too many people have committed suicide over this and its NOT FAIR. I believe that if you do not teach your children acceptance, that you are a bad parent.
May you live happy lives.
- 1 decade ago
Personally speaking I would love for everyone to begin observing that the laws of the United States created a separation between church and state and since the state issues a "marriage" license that none of the equations are anything more than a domestic union or partnership, since according to the law, divorce is the matter of a civil court and not the church.
Therefore everyone can fight for something more important like the environment, health care, hunger, children's rights, stopping abuse and work together.
The Bible in it's 3 original languages never mentions homosexuality. It did not enter the text until 1863.
What other profound events occurred in 1863?
Anheiser Busch began brewery practices and exporting it's lager in free trade.
Christmas was observed as a Christian holiday, celebrated December 25th, despite the fact that it contradicts Biblical indications of the season of Christ's Birth.
The King Jame's Version Bible was adapted and amended by the church removing 6 additional books some of which are still observed by the Catholic Church.
Simple fact it took the "church" over 400 years to say Galileo was not a heretic even though explorers had sailed around the earth and man had landed on the moon.
Get a clue the Bible is not a science book- men were called to act in faith and follow the example of the Bible. Jesus fulfilled the law and there is one thing in scripture that He mentioned would damn a person from heaven.
Source(s): m2f/xxy/lgbt - Anonymous1 decade ago
With interracial marriage, there is a male and a female present. A mother and a father. One of each sex. We are all human beings, just that different races have different skin colors and possibly several other differing traits. Either way there's still a male and a female present in the relationship. What's wrong with a little diversity?
With gay "marriage" there are either two males or two females present. There's an unbalance.
Think of it this way: say you're installing a new sink. The water supply line from the wall is a 1/4 inch diameter white PVC pipe with male threading. But the intake pipe on the sink is a 1/4 inch diameter copper pipe with female threading. You can still connect the sink to the water supply and it works, even though the pipes are made of different materials.
Now let's assume that the sink faucet's intake pipe was instead of the copper pipe, also a 1/4 inch diameter white male-threaded PVC pipe. Try connecting it to the water supply! Won't work.
- 1 decade ago
I am assuming no Anti-Gay people would come around these parts of cyberspace.
I think the race argument is not comparable at all.
Have you ever heard of a liger?
It is the offspring of a tiger and a lion. Once more people start hearing about the liger, more people will accept the liger as a legitimate feline within the animal kingdom.
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- UVa guyLv 71 decade ago
I was not going to answer (because I agree with you) but I had to respond to SDPark:
People are absolutely free to substitute the bible for logic and objective thought, and to use it in place of personal reasoning, they are NOT, in the United States of America, free to use it to enforce public policies that restrict my civil rights. The same First Amendment that allows them to practice their religion prevents them from imposing their beliefs on me.
Allowing gay marriage is NOT forcing my beliefs on them. It is circumscribing the boundaries of their 'free exercise' rights precisely where they butt up against my rights to be treated equally under the law.
- 1 decade ago
That's not necessarily fair that you're not allowing people to use the Bible as their reference. I'm not against same sex marriage, but you need to keep in mind that people use the Bible as a way to life and agree with the morals that it teaches. The words of the Bible have becomes their personal reasoning.
- 1 decade ago
they have to defend their opinions because their system is falling, and that scares them. it scares them because they are loosing power. they used to oppose interacial marriages too but they lost, they used to consider women inferior to men but they lost too. This is another one they are loosing. It is just a matter of time. We can never go back to the dark ages, they will just have to evolve.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Male & female equals natural which equals children
Same sex & same sex equals unnatural which equals ?
- Anonymous1 decade ago
can trolls marry?