If You Are Against Gay Marriage Because It "Devalues" Straight Marriages...?

Simple. People are hypocrites & like to pick & choose what's right for THEM (aka do as I say, not as I do). When you point out the weaknesses in their "devalue" argument, they just find another reason they are against SSM:

-Tradition

-It'll lead to incestuous marriages, marriages between adults & children, marriage to 2 or more people, or marriage outside the species

-marriage's main purpose is to bring children into the world

-every same sex marriage will destroy/weaken every hetero marriage

-generalized confusion about what the couple will call each other, damage to any children they raise, etc

-FEAR

My wife's Mom (actually, the entire family) is very devout Irish Catholic who didn't come to her daughter's marriage to me b/c she couldn't come to grips with the idea or see the line/difference between the SACRAMENT of marriage & CIVIL marriage. Even after talking to clergy, friends, praying about it, etc, she still chose NOT to attend our wedding. The clergy & friends she consulted with told her to go. Mom was so afraid of how she would react at our wedding (& I Quote: 'I didn't know if I would throw up, or if something would be said that I didn't agree with. What would they do, pronounce you man & wife? I think it would mock God...') that she missed her own daughter's wedding.

She sent her daughter a little book with the inscription "Things done in haste usually lead to mistakes" & tried to get us to wait until we got marriage counseling & talked about it more. She even told my wife that she would fly us out to a state that allows SSM if CA law changed while we waited. Of course, that was just talk to get us to not get married. She couldn't afford to send us back east to CT, NH, or MA, nor did she want us to get married.

The funny thing about this? She's been married & divorced 3 times:

-once in the Church (to my wife's Dad 20+ yrs ago)

-twice outside the Church in a CIVIL ceremony

The marriage to my wife's Dad? STILL being annulled (as in STILL working on wiping that slate clean so if she wants to get married in the Church again, she can). Does she see the irony in this? Of course not. She's in her own little world. She likes to tell me about "tradition" & Jesus going to a wedding in the Bible to perform a miracle. I said that Jesus is the MAIN person who broke tradition in order for people to be treated as PEOPLE.

The only thing I can do is be here with my wife. That is more powerful than ANYTHING I could ever say to her. This isn't about lust, or mocking marriage, or going against her Church teachings. It is about me wanting to share my life with my wife & make sure she has all the benefits I am entitiled to from my military service, government, & other employers should I become incapacitated or die. The only people who can destroy or strengthen a marriage are the 2 people within that marriage.

After the disasters within her own relationships, maybe one day my mother-in-law will see that our marriage has no effect on anyone else's marriage. Straigh folks have been screwing up marriage long before we were able to get married. Yet, they blame US for the marriage crisis in this country.

Hmmm...

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I understand your point, but at the same time, I also think that the people who are against gay marriage because they think it devalues straight marriages are against divorce, as well. They'd say that we need to be fighting and putting an end to both, and that the Catholic dissolving of a marriage should only be done in extreme cases, like where there's spousal abuse, for example.

I think it's good to point out, but in the end, if you use the whole "the presence of divorce invalidates your right to marriage", then eventually someone is going to point to a gay or lesbian divorce, saying the same thing. (And indeed, that has happened).

I personally suspect there is a fear. A fear that just maybe the gay community may out preform the straights in a rewarding relationship, yet if that is not a fear that would scare the dots of a cow (if one could be homophobic) I think the big fear is that these same sex couples may then become successful parents.

That would be the ultimate kick in the guts.

Yet all this fear is silly. The gays I know who are parents are no better or worse than anyone else.

STRAIGHTS MANAGE TO DEVALUE MARRIAGE ALL BY THEMSELVES.