So they say "There Is No Debate" re Man Made Global Warming?

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Does it look like there is no debate?

What happened to global warming?

By Paul Hudson 
Climate correspondent, BBC News 

This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.

But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures. 

And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise. 

So what on Earth is going on? 

Climate change sceptics, who passionately and consistently argue that man's influence on our climate is overstated, say they saw it coming. 

They argue that there are natural cycles, over which we have no control, that dictate how warm the planet is. But what is the evidence for this? 

During the last few decades of the 20th Century, our planet did warm quickly.

Sceptics argue that the warming we observed was down to the energy from the Sun increasing. After all 98% of the Earth's warmth comes from the Sun.

But research conducted two years ago, and published by the Royal Society, seemed to rule out solar influences. 

The scientists' main approach was simple: to look at solar output and cosmic ray intensity over the last 30-40 years, and compare those trends with the graph for global average surface temperature. 

And the results were clear. "Warming in the last 20 to 40 years can't have been caused by solar activity," said Dr Piers Forster from Leeds University, a leading contributor to this year's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). 

But one solar scientist Piers Corbyn from Weatheraction, a company specialising in long range weather forecasting, disagrees.

He claims that solar charged particles impact us far more than is currently accepted, so much so he says that they are almost entirely responsible for what happens to global temperatures. 

He is so excited by what he has discovered that he plans to tell the international scientific community at a conference in London at the end of the month. 

If proved correct, this could revolutionise the whole subject.

Ocean cycles

What is really interesting at the moment is what is happening to our oceans. They are the Earth's great heat stores.

According to research conducted by Professor Don Easterbrook from Western Washington University last November, the oceans and global temperatures are correlated. 

The oceans, he says, have a cycle in which they warm and cool cyclically. The most important one is the Pacific decadal oscillation (PDO).
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Oh it gets better from there! How badly will the MMGW crowd cripple our economy and damage our national security over AN UNPROVEN THEORY?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

couple this with the fact that the AGW crowd lost another "in the pocket"  german scientist by the name of Professor Mojib Latif of Germany's Leibniz Institute who by the way is a "peer reviewed" scientist that the AGW crowd likes to throw in our faces....who said,
"that we are entering a period in which the earth is likely to cool for a period of one to two decades." 

also..."Dr. Mojib Latif, a prize-winning climate and ocean scientist from the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences at the University of Kiel, wrote a paper last year positing that cyclical shifts in the oceans were aligning in a way that could keep the next decade or so relatively cool, even as the heat-trapping gases linked to global warming continue to increase."

but here's something interesting...

"But Dr. Latif, who gives around 200 talks to the public, business leaders and officials each year, {{said he had been met with confusion and even anger when he tried to describe this normal variation in climate while at the same time conveying the long-term threat of global warming.}}"

but the best is here....

"Still, those projections are based on models, interpretations of tree ring variations and other indirect assessments of past temperatures that, while persuasive to most climate scientists, are not infallible."

and we all thought and have been told..."there is no debate", this is settled science....one more thing to add insult to injury, the antartic is thickening to unprecidented levels and recent satillite photos show the artic ice expanding....i wonder, how much longer before the AGW crowd finally understands that "the wolf can only cry for so long" !!!

Anonymous · Answer

Yes it has become a religion and Al Gore is the pope of the cult.Think of how much money certain groups will make off of the hype.Think of all that government money going to "research".Besides there is only so much you can do ,after all whoever controls the weather controls the world.Fear is the best political motivator. Climate change is part of the nature of the planet.Common sense is to have clean energy but until there is a buck in it all that happens is talk,talk and more talk.Government regulations,fines and penalties(gotta get that bailout money somewhere) We certainly need clean air and water .I am the original recycler and I don't waste energy just like many other people.I use energy and don't go for the "guilt" trip of doing so. I have a problem with Gore the guru who flies around a fuel guzzling jet.So does Queen Pelosi who opted for a bigger one to fly back and forth to California.Remember her saying she wants to save the planet,yeah she flies we walk.We can all start by using the new energy saving light bulbs. Oh I forgot they are the ones with mercury in them.Oh,well seems like a good idea at the time. I guess you all heard that some genius politician wanted to tax cow farmers for any that own more than 100 for emitting "methane gas" yeah it's true.Can we bottle it instead?Or on second thought send some from the bull to that politician as he knows the B.S. when he sees or smells it.

ketkonen · Answer

Russian scientists concur with the solar activity theory. They also think the balance indicates the onset of another ice age. They may be right and the west may be wrong. Who knows ?

Anonymous · Answer

Hey, you get the Nobe Peace Prize for junk science & doing nothing. When they think they are right, there is no debate needed. Progressive myass.

Anonymous · Answer

There is no debate because if the establishment allowed a real debate to take place, their manufactured "consensus" would be torn to shreds in 4.1 seconds.

Anonymous · Answer

The only thing hotter is the air in Gore's head.

Anonymous · Answer

There's no debate(ing) with anything "Libby's" attach themselves to, they're Decrees. 
... and they say conservatives are Facist, tsk tsk. Have a look in the mirror.

EZMZ · Answer

Al Gore is a crack-pot.....this is all about more power-grabbing and control.

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