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Duke
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Duke asked in Science & MathematicsMathematics · 1 decade ago

Halloween Challenge: How to Carve the Pumpkin?

When Yahoo! introduced some time ago the new default icon (currently in use) my friend Alberich commented it in a question as an "anemic Halloween pumpkin (Jack-o'-lantern)" or some awful thing "anyone with even the slightest tinge of paranoia, will probably run for the hills, screaming 'help, help, it wants to eat me' ". Agree?

If we add teeth to the monster, it may look like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2...

or even (CAUTION: Scary! Only brave persons click the link on the next text line!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5HFygG5UVM&feature...

Anyway, here is a problem. It isn't difficult, just for fun. Enjoy!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3518/4009499876_3bd...

ABCD is a square with side length 2a (a > 0). The eyes are circles with radius r < a/2, tangent to the sides AD and DC, BC and CD respectively. A circle with radius R (R > a) is tangent to AB and internally to both eyes as shown, the lower arc along with the horizontal chord forming the mouth.

1) Derive a relationship between a, r and R;

2) Derive expressions, yielding all solutions - integer triples (a, r, R), satisfying the above relationship and

0 < r < a/2 < a < R;

3) Find the least value of a for which there are 2 distinct triples (a, r', R') and (a, r", R");

4) Find a Pythagorean triple (a, r, R) if any;

5) What is Your Favorite Triple? The icon with most "aesthetic dimensions"? Please help me to decide how to carve my Halloween Pumpkin!

Update:

Bravo Pandect, brave girl, the Monster hasn't scared You! Go on with 2) - 5)!

Update 2:

Excellent answers, Pandect & DSquared!

1) r + 4R = 5a - from the right triangle with hypotenuse connecting the centers, horizontal and vertical legs.

2) As a Diophantine equation with respect to r & R the above has a solution (a,a,a), hence according the general theory:

r = a - 4k; R = a + k; a, k - integers,

according the constraints a/8 < k < a/4.

3) There are 2 integer values for k between a/8 and a/4 for a = 13.

4) Impressively done by Fermat's Infinite Descent Method, DSquared!!! I did it as Pandect - checked the ratio a/k is irrational.

5) Again impressive suggestions in both answers! Yet I'll wait a little for another eventual suggestions. Poor Pumpkin - it will be a very difficult choice!

Update 3:

* * * * * * * * Final Remarks * * * * * * * *

Two excellent correct answers by Pandect and DSquared - everything done, even 5) - my choice of the Best Answer was determined by who gave the first one.

DSquared's treatment of 4) was remarkable!

And this is for Bob:

http://www.nisk.k12.ny.us/va/images/jack-o-lantern...

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  • 1 decade ago
    Favorite Answer

    q1

    (2a - R - r)^2 + (a - r)^2 = (R - r)^2

    some more lines and we get

    4R(a - r) = 5a^2 - 6ar + r^2

    4R = 5a - r

    q2

    r = 5a - 4R

    so a and r must have the same parity.

    if we let a = 4k + r and R = 5k + r

    5a - 4R

    = 5(4k + r) - 4(5k + r)

    = (20k - 20k) + (5r - 4r)

    = r

    a > 2r

    4k + r > 2r

    k > r/4

    (a , r , R) = (4k + r , r , 5k + r)

    q3

    5a = 4R + r = 20k + 5r

    = 20(k - 1) + 5(r + 4)

    since r > 0, we fix r = 1

    4(k - 1) > (r + 4)

    k - 1 > 5/4

    k > 9/4

    k = 2, r = 5

    k = 3, r = 1

    a = 13

    (13, 1, 16) and (13, 5, 15)

    q4

    R > a > r

    R^2 = a^2 + r^2

    (5k + r)^2 = (4k + r)^2 + r^2

    r^2 + 10kr + 25k^2 = 2r^2 + 8kr + 16k^2

    r^2 - 2kr - 9k^2 = 0

    (r - k)^2 = 10k^2

    r = k +- k√10 = k(1 +- √10)

    k, r > 0 and k, r = integer

    so there are no Pythagorean triple.

    q5

    can't say i'm a good judge of anything aesthetic. on the pumpkin, all i know is i like the taste of the juice. i just love the numbers in (15, 7, 17) and (27, 11, 31). the former because they are almost PT and the latter is a birthday of someone i know. Dsquared recommendation is best.

    Source(s): for q5 : animes. reason why the eyes are out of proportion. it's all the mangakas & animators fault!
  • 1 decade ago

    pandect 244 has pretty much nailed parts 1)-4), but here are a few slight variations + an attempt at part 5).

    (1) Compare sides of the right-angle triangle with vertices at:

    (i) centre of larger circle;

    (ii) midpoint of horizontal line passing through centres of small circles;

    (iii) centre of smaller circle on right (or left):

    (a-r)^2 = (R-r)^2 - (2a-R-r)^2

    = 4(R-a)(a-r)

    ==> a-r = 4(R-a), since a ≠ r.

    ==> r + 4R = 5a.

    (2) Start with: 4(R-r) = 5(a-r)

    5 | LHS and gcd(4,5) = 1 ==> 5 | (R-r)

    ==> R - r = 5k, with k an integer

    ==> a - r = 4k.

    Consider restrictions:

    a > 2r ==> k >= [r/4]+1.

    With k a positive integer, a = r+4k < r+5k = R

    is automatically satisfied.

    --> a = r + 4k, R = r + 5k, with k integer and k >= [r/4] + 1.

    (3) Not difficult to prove that for fixed r and k, other solutions yielding the same value for "a" have the form r+4m, k-m, resp.,

    i.e. a = r + 4k = (r+4m) + 4(k-m), with m a non-zero integer.

    Also, for any value of a, we can select r such that r <= 4 and hence, m > 0.

    With the constraints in place, we require:

    k-m >= [r/4] + m + 1,

    i.e. k >= [r/4] + 2m + 1,

    and therefore

    a >= (r+4[r/4]) + 8m + 4.

    This is clearly minimised by choosing r = 1 and m = 1, so that a_min = 13.

    (r'=1, R'=16; r''=5, R''=15.)

    (4) From r + 4R = 5a

    it follows that:

    r ≡ a (mod 2),

    so that r and a are both odd or both even.

    If (r,a,R) forms a Pythagorean triple, then r and a must be both even (otherwise 2 ≡ 0 (mod 4), a contradiction).

    ==> a=2*a1, r = 2*r1.

    Then, from r^2 + a^2 = R^2, it follows that R=2*R1.

    ==> r1 + 4*R1 = 5*a1.

    The above argument can be repeated ad infinitum, which is impossible since a,r and R are finite, for example.

    (5) Will try using the "Golden Ratio" φ a couple of times:

    Will imagine the centre of the large circle to be the tip of the nose.

    According to beauty studies, two measures for φ are:

    (i) distance between inner points of eyes/eye width

    (ii) distance between top of eyes and tip of nose/distance between tip of nose to top of mouth.

    This translates to:

    (2a-4r)/2r = φ

    and

    (2a-R)/sqrt(R^2-a^2) = φ

    which yield the solutions:

    r ≈ 0.276a, R ≈ 1.134a.

  • 4 years ago

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