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why do believers say "i have faith"? shouldnt they say "i assume"?.........?

as in "i have faith that god is watching" but i think they should say "i assume god is watching"

because thats what they are doing,assuming that god is there.

so essentially having faith is assuming.

what do you all think?

Update:

to know ho

Update 2:

@ #1 stunna:

how do you people "know" something is there without proof?

@ thomas h: faith in an airplane? isnt that a calculated risk?

@ random:why would god give u a supernatural experience and not give everyone in the world the same thing?

what is right to you may be wrong to others.

an athiest should not assume there is no god before searching for god but should say so because of a lack of evidence or proof.

@ rhonda b: did god personally tell you he watches you? or did you read it in the bible or did your pastor tell you that?

@ truthbearer: i know what faith is.you should not assume i do not.faith is believing in something without proof.

you say you met god?what did he look like?what color ? what does he smell like?male or female?short tall skinny fat?details PLEASE!!!!

you also say you know god.can you please tell him to come to my place so i can believe in him?

why does he do things for you and not everyone else?

god is more than you own kids?that is truly scary unreal

Update 3:

@ believer:an unborn fetus is life and should be treated as such.

atheists do not assume there is no god.they conclude that god is not there based on a lack of proof.but if proof presents itself the athiests will change thier minds.what choice do they have if the evidence is there?

your right they are prone to error and could be wrong.just like the people who wrote the bible 5000 years ago.but as a believer you will not admit that the bible could have errors but are quick to say that athiests are full of them.

a little hypocritical i think.

Update 4:

@remieres:

you said: exactly how a true atheist would view something they have prejudice against and are too stubborn to try it out.

im not a true atheist. more agnostic with an atheist lean.and i have tried out christianity.with an open heart and open mind.

kind of ironic you assumed i was a true atheist.

you said:"by your logic you assume that your parent(s) Love(d) you and never lied as such. so you assume you know they love(d) you."

i do not have to assume they love me.i know they love me by thier actions and speech.if thier actions and speech do not show love, then i would know they do NOT love me.

i can also ask them and they will answer me.

you also said:"same respect you should give those who have actually seen Jesus walk in the flesh today in the modern world not 2000 years ago.

Just because you have not seen or believe that Jesus is alive even today and walks on earth as he wishes when he wishes you mock those of us who have or believe that he does."

Update 5:

i am sorry but no one in the modern world has seen jesus walk and if they did they were delusional,on drugs or jesus is now a zombie?????????????.

you claim to have seen him?what does he look like?is it the artists rendition of what he looks like that you have been staring at since you can remember?

and please tell me where he lives so that i may see him for myself.if he "walks the earth" as you claim,im sure someone else has seen him.and why is he not on television?

please back up your claims with some proof.please forgive me if your word alone is not good enuff for me.

Update 6:

you also said:"This does not mean you are absolutely in truth when you say "assume" as if it were a Dilusion. you have not the knowledge of the whole world nor does anyone on earth at any given time"

you are correct. it is not absolute truth but there is some truth to it.i did not claim to have the "knowledge of the whole world"and if anyone does they are full of it.including those that read the bible.

i dont claim to know everything. no one can know everything.i make decisions based on what i experience and then come to a logical conclusion.

Update 7:

you also said:"So you are assuming this statement to be true of yourself by thinking you know that we should say "assume" and in saying that god/Jesus is dead and doesnt exist or live any more means you can only have something convince you through humanistic means "which would destroy the meaning of being god"

the only way to convince yourself that something actually exists and is real is by "humanistic means" such as: testing,experimentation,verbal and ocular communications,touch,sight,sound,smell,taste. all of which does "destroy the meaning of being god".in other words god cannot be proven

Update 8:

you also said:"I emplore you to actually spend more time amongst real genuine Evangelical christians and learn about what you are debating here before you "assume" to be true or false.

i did spend some time with christians.5 years, 6 months to exact.in church every sunday,bible studies,fellowshipping,prayer meetings,witnessing,ect.ect.ect......

i do know what im debating:the existence of god. i am not going to "have faith",assume","take for granted","wishfully think","hope" or "trust" that god exists.

i have tried it all. it does not work!

if you have never seen god and you think err..."know" he is there,is that not an assumption? you cant "know" something is there without actually seeing it or having some kind of proof that its there.

Update 9:

you also said:"Whether its based on science or not Science its self is constantly being corrected and is governed by the idea that all things are changing and nothing is absolute in truth."

along with science,could you include your religion in that statement or is your religion "absolute truth" without error?

having said all that,i hope im wrong. i really do hope there is a god ,but just because i hope there is does not mean its actually there.

maybe there is a god but its not the god of the bible.that god is too humanlike which makes me think man wrote the bible.

based on a lack of proof, i cannot see a god existing.but if we get some proof i will change my outlook in a heartbeat.count on that!

thank you for your answer, peace and good luck to you!

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  • 1 decade ago
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    exactly how a true atheist would view something they have prejudice against and are too stubborn to try it out.

    by your logic you assume that your parent(s) Love(d) you and never lied as such. so you assume you know they love(d) you. same respect you should give those who have actually seen Jesus walk in the flesh today in the modern world not 2000 years ago.

    Just because you have not seen or believe that Jesus is alive even today and walks on earth as he wishes when he wishes you mock those of us who have or believe that he does. This does not mean you are absolutely in truth when you say "assume" as if it were a Dilusion. you have not the knowledge of the whole world nor does anyone on earth at any given time. So you are assuming this statement to be true of yourself by thinking you know that we should say "assume" and in saying that god/Jesus is dead and doesnt exist or live any more means you can only have something convince you through humanistic means "which would destroy the meaning of being god"

    I emplore you to actually spend more time amongst real genuine Evangelical christians and learn about what you are debating here before you "assume" to be true or false. Whether its based on science or not Science its self is constantly being corrected and is governed by the idea that all things are changing and nothing is absolute in truth.

  • 1 decade ago

    Sort of like how some people "assume" an unborn fetus is not a human being until it takes it's first breath of air.

    When a person assumes something they are admitting that they may be wrong.

    Atheists assume there is no God. They have no proof He doesn't exist so assuming He doesn't is the best they can do. They may say they have faith in their own intelligence and logic, and that that tells them He doesn't exist, but at the same time they know that they are only human and just as prone to error as anyone else. They have been wrong about many things in the past, just as we all have. Deep down, at the core of their intellect, they know there is a chance, however slight, that they could be wrong.

    Good question!

    God Bless You!

  • 1 decade ago

    Assuming is not the same as faith , assuming is that you say : i'm not sure but i think it true like 40% 60 % . But real faith(real faith ) , is 85% 1confusing% is not faith but than you know it . You don't believe or have faith . You know it for sure, just like you know that if you press the buton a on your computerboard it create a a on your screem . So if you assume jesus came to save all . you're just a little les convinced than wenn you have faith . Faith can also mean : i believe that jesus will save me, and that's why he came . When the truth will come to tell the secrets, all human who believe or don't believe in the salvation because the didn't knew the truth will be saved . Jesus told in the bible all who blastformy my name still will get a change for salvation, but the one who rejects the holy spirit wont .

  • 1 decade ago

    Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen ( Hebrews 11;1) And assumptions are more are less guessing games, and you know that old saying about assumptions, they are like//////// everybody has one, now we are all given a measure of faith, but as life & experiences, trials & errors, some of us at the end of the day have more faith than others, but with assumptions they are all the same no way to measure, because you can't measure a guess. So no we cannot, nor will not replace our Faith, for a guess.

  • 1 decade ago

    Since it is obvious that you do not have faith, and have no idea what it is, why should you presume that you can say for us, who do know and have much more than what you think is 'faith', in our God, what we should say? You cannot tell the true people of God what to say. God did not tell us to 'assume' anything. we KNOW. There is a big difference in those who 'believe', without KNOWING, and those of us who followed on far enough with God to really MEET HIM AND KNOW HIM.

    I know. It is much more than faith. And yes, there is much proof, for He does things in my life which could only have come from a supernatural God. So the proof is there for those who truly do believe, not just think they believe.

    If a person truly BELIEVES, not just says they believe, then the WORKS OF CHRIST will follow and be real in their lives. If it is not, then they are as you...just assuming that they believe. Jesus did not lie. He said if we BELIEVE, these SIGNS will follow.

    So take the test....do the signs follow your belief? If not, you are just assuming that you believe. Your belief is not real. That is what is not real. God is real.

    God is more real to me than my own children. He is more to me than anyone, even my own self. You who have never truly MET GOD, cannot even start to understand what I am saying. You are being cheated of the most blessed thing in all of life.

    Source(s): KJV truth
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I think that is a different way to look at it, it is as if saying you are not sure. I think the word faith is said more in the bible than assume. You should start a new trend and I will join you, from now on I will say i assume God is watching.

  • 1 decade ago

    Faith is believing. Assuming is not knowing, almost like saying ... "if i had to guess, i'd say..."

    A person who has faith doesn't have to assume. Having real faith is trusting. Kind of like trusting that if i work for walmart, each week, my pay check will be available to me like it is every week prior.

    I wouldn't have to assume walmart is going to pay me for the work i've done. They've always paid me, and paid on time. Assuming is lacking trust.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Faith is something that grows as you learn to trust something. Like faith in a chair or faith in an airplane. Faith requires action to grow. Assuming does not grow at all.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    if they're the same thing to you, then they can both be used interchangeably, so why does it matter?

    if you want a real answer, then you'd have to ask them, and they'll tell you that you're an ignorant child.

    or, they'll give you multiple reasons why they truly believe, which would be a long list of things that can be proven wrong at the same time.

  • 1 decade ago

    we know god is here with us because many of us had supernatural encounters with God

    sidroth.org

    while others hold on to faith because, as offensive it may be, they know the truth and it has set them free. no need for assumptions when you know what is right.

    ps. should an atheist say he assume there is no god too?

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