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Have any of the atheists here...?
...actually experienced the presence of God in your life at one point, but decided later in life that it was actually something else? If so, what was it? I find that Christianity is dismissible for most in this age, but the manifestation of Holy Spirit in a believers life is a hard thing to discredit when it is a personal experience. Just wondering if any of you have been there done that.
Thanks Rev. You couldn't answer my question, so you deflected. Nice.
fdrc: Many have abandoned Hindu beliefs because they have encountered the God of Christianity. I know some of these people personally.
Olga: I have experienced Him. "Be it unto you according to your faith."
Cod: One could make a stronger case for the God of Abraham than you could any other God.
Oldernwi: Nor are you open to any such experience if it was made available to you.
17 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Haha! I highly doubt it.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Yes.
As it turns out, you can feel the presence of someone else (including a very wonderful feeling of happiness at the same time) due to issues with brainwaves. We can even induce it in many people (see source). Most of the people who experienced these things in the experiment said they would have been convinced it was a real religious experience if it were not for the fact that they understood it's mechanism.
Look at it this way: The brain is very powerful. How it perceives something, or a particular experience can shape someone’s entire reality. That doesn’t mean the reality they perceive is actually true.
In the case of 'god experiences' we can actually induce them in people's brains (easily, and without harming them; again see the source!).
As for discrediting a personal experience of someone ELSE: That's easy. We do it with people who are 'abducted by aliens' all the time.
Source(s): http://www.bidstrup.com/mystic.htm - Anonymous1 decade ago
No, there are no gods for anyone to experience. There are just delusions. Have you ever actually experienced the presence of Yu Ti the Chinese Jade Emperor of Heaven, Ameratsu the Japanese Sun Goddess, Vishnu the Hindu god of preservation, etc.? Experiences of them are as real as yours to believers in these other gods. It works both ways, but you refuse to admit it. Some Christians have converted to Hinduism. You have not experienced any deity, because they are all fantasy. Faith is a bad faculty to be in control of anyone, because it is much too subjective. It is self-delusion to say that there is a stronger case for the deity of Abraham than nay other. This is totally subjective and has no basis in objective reality. I cannot be open to fictional characters. are you open to Yu Ti, Ameratsu, Vishnu, Ahuramazda, Enki, Asshur, Amon, Zeus, Odin, Kukulcan, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Harry Potter, Agent 007, Lin Tai-Yu, Chia Pao-Yu, etc.?
- Pedestal 42Lv 71 decade ago
Yes I have had religious and other powerful subjective experiences.
But the sensation or experience and the interpretation of the experience are two totally separate things which far too many people *don't* separate.
It may have helped to have had a long familiarity of migraine with visual and olfactory illusions and degrees of out-of-body experiences.
Powerful sensations do not have to correspond to external reality even when they most strongly suggest they do. I see lights that aren't there, smell things that aren't there...
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
please ask yourself why a Christian in a Christian society only sees Jesus, and a Hindu in Hindu socie sees Krshna . . . . .
now, if aChristian in a Christian sociey were to have a visitation by, say Krshna he might actually have some credibility when it comes to "seeing" God.
There are cases of one experiencing a stat of non-duality . . . . which might be closer to the suggestion that we do not know everything there is about life and it's purpose, but one can not seek, or believe in the concept (as it does not not exist) . . .
God is not a great hairy man in flowing robes who sits on a mushroom and doles out virtue . . . . he just isn't.
- Jess HLv 71 decade ago
I did, on occasion, feel that I had actually experienced the presence of "God" in my life.
Since I became an atheist, I found that I still experience the exact same depth of feeling, and emotion, and awe, and joy, and ecstasy from different sources...none of them being magical.
When I was a believer, I attributed such feelings to magical beings.
- ?Lv 61 decade ago
Delusional euphoria - ancient paganism had that as well. A euphoric trance. Ancient people and ancient religions have euphoric gatherings in order to experience the presence of their deity and then use that to say it was real.
Nothing was real about it but your altered consciousness. Persist in your delusions that ancient man has always resorted to and see what type of mental illness it will drive you to eventually.
Get real. We live on a natural planet paradise - THAT's the supernatural, the big picture which you miss entirely by believing in ancient myth stories of the personal history of god and his lesser gods (angels in xtianity). You really think ancient, ignorant and superstitious men have something to teach you?
Source(s): ex-xtian - Anonymous1 decade ago
Muslims, Hindus, Animists, Pagans and the followers of every god through history have experienced the same thing. Now is every god real or is it just a common psychological trait in humanity.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
No, I never did, and I never could because there is no God to experience. Personal experience is quite subjective. Some people believe things I know are "gavno". Self-deception is a strong force with believers.
- laslo.kovacsLv 61 decade ago
I don't see why this type of "personal experience" should be any more reliable than all the other forms of self-delusion the human mind is, and has been, subject to over the ages.
If anything, anecdotal evidence should never be regarded as "evidence" of anything. It is merely one's opinion or interpretation of a personal neural/chemical/biological event.
Even in a court of law, eye-witness testimony is viewed with a great deal of suspicion.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
What people think is a experienced the presence of god, is really their emotional reaction to a good period in their life, nothing more.