If everything must have a creator, therefore god (the creator) must exist, What then created god?

(*YAWN*) Not THIS question again! Don't you mockers EVER get tired of being told how wrong you are? Oh, well - here we go again! (*Sigh*)

First, if you ask who created God, then you are obligated to ask who created God's creator, and who created THAT one's creator, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum, creating an infinite regression of creators.

For God to be God, He must first meet certain qualifications, the first and foremost of which is that He had to have created this MEST universe. (MEST = Matter, Energy, Space and Time).

If God created matter and energy, He can not consist of matter or energy, or you have a logical contradiction, in which God created Himself before He even existed. (Jesus said "God is Spirit.")

Furthermore, if God lives within the constraints of the universe He created, you have the same problem. If God created space and time, He as to exist outside of that which He created. In other words, He transcends both space AND time. In other words, God is infinite in scope, and eternal in duration.

If you put God in the category of that which had a beginning, He is no longer God, and so your effort to disprove that this God is NOT God, becomes moot, because you are talking about God, not this OTHER thing - the one you claim had a beginning. You get stuck in a logical loop that you can't escape from, or you end with an infinite regression of creators, of which there is no first creator, thus there is no creation, and you no longer exist. But if you insist that the Creator must have a beginning, then you go back the infinite chain, and eventually give up and decide that one of them did NOT have a beginning, then that FIRST one, that did NOT have a beginning, the one that recedes past infinity into the past, THAT one is God. He was the originator of everything, He pre-existed everything, and anything that DOES exist (even the little gods you're trying to disprove - if they, indeed, had a beginning), and this original infinite God is STILL God, and always will be.

Extra thought:

Your finite, puny mind can not comprehend the infinite, so quit trying. You have existed - what? 30 years? 50 years? 100 years? Compared to the age of the earth, you don't even exist! You are just too small to talk about the infinite! It's more stupid than a grain of sand in the middle of the Sahara Desert claiming that the desert doesn't exist! It's not God's existence that is in question, rather, it is your OWN existence that is in question!

I believe they use the "uncreated creator" when the answer this question. The supposition is that god has always existed and therefore didn't need a creator. Basically it's a cop out because they can't give a real answer or can't accept the consequences of the original statement.

Dude your hypothesis is an extremely undesirable mis-reading of the Kalam argument. the final fact is,"regardless of starts off to exist has a reason. The universe began to exist. subsequently the universe has a reason." You skipped over a number of the main areas and whether you have been only attempting to spin it your way. there's an excellent distinction between something that exists and something that has a beginning.

In the beginning God created

@ Muldah - so then our souls don't require a creator?

Anything not part of space-time does not fall within the category subject to causality. Of course, *any* supposed source for the universe would not be part of space-time, so this argument exempts the universe from needing a cause, too.

This is a case of the fallacy "special pleading". If you look close enough, virtually all arguments for the existence of a deity are fallacies.

I agree but theists claim that their god is illogical ( not bound by the laws of logic ).

They will make up any reason they can to avoid applying logic to their god belief.

This has been asked many times and it has been answered many times.

Atheists deny God because of a belief in a thing called "first cause." Christians say that God is "first cause."

God bless.

Most religious people I have asked this have said that God has ALWAYS existed.

I think it's ridiculous too.

Who says "everything must have a creator"?

Bill Nye the Science Guy.

Look it up.