Would You Pay 28% More for Green Energy?

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I also saw this article, i didn't realise you'd posted on it as well.

It is a scandal and here's why:

The DWP (the utility company) is a state-owned utility that helps to fund the bankrupt city of LA by more than 220 million dollars every single year - so why do they need to raise prices?

Well, as the article makes clear, there is a massive shortfall caused by the fact that the solar panels and wind turbines they installed were more expensive and less reliable than expected. The extra charges will cover this without affecting profit. But wasn't anyone fired for this fiasco?

No, because the Mayor himself appoints the board members of the DWP, and as the article notes, he has appeared alongside "environmental and union leaders" to applaud this hike in prices. But ideology aside, what is there to gain by his support for vastly increased costs for a basic human need?

Well, again, as the article notes, the extra charges are expected to contribute more than 800 million dollars to the DWP every single year, which in turn will fund more "green jobs" on the state (union leaders support that) and hundreds of millions of dollars more for the city which is essentially insolvent.

So - green is the colour that really matters here, and your tax dollars are hard at work. As are you to help fund this madness.

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My province does use green power. I pay about $80 every two months but I live in an apartment and don't have to pay for hydro. I pay about 6 cents per kilowatt hour up to a point after which I pay 8 cents per kw hour if exceeded. The average hydro bill in BC is about $60 per month. In link 2 you'll notice that BC has the first or second lowest price for the kw hours given. Far lower than the other provinces that get their energy from non renewable resources.

My proposal is to build a residential energy grid where the majority of high rise or multi complex residences use some form of residential green energy production, such as wind turbines, geothermal energy, solar energy, etc... are plug those into the national grid. These types of residential energy production plants are already being built and being used. This would increase the cost of each residence within the complex by about 1000 to 5000 dollars dependent on the number of residences and the power of the turbine(s). This would be plugged into the national grid where the excess power would be transferred to the grid and the residences would receive tax breaks based on the amount of energy sent to the grid. There would be 0 cost to residences for using the energy produced by their turbine. If the residences do not have an energy turbine or the turbine does not produce enough power in a given time period the residences would have to pay to receive power from the grid.

It should be a choice. Then again, with the new rules for power production, a lot of energy companies are trying to bring in more renewable energy and to keep revenue the same as demand goes down.

Using 2$ worth of hardware to create 1$ worth of output means that they are wasting resources

nobody will go for this, the world revolves around money so people want to save. depending on what green energy your talking about needs to be specified. I would pay to get geothermal energy, expensive at first but in the long run its cheaper. Why not try simplier methods such as keeping your house cooler in the winter or warmer in the summer? Always turns the light off when your done. Browse the web there is probably tons of things you can do to be green and pay less! The little things add up!

While I know the whole thing is foolishness and I fight it in any way that I can. I don't know how I can not pay for the power I need to live my life. I don't want to live like I am in the 19th century just because I don't want to pay a foolish tax to a foolish government because of a foolish hoax. I could and if they push too hard I will just remove myself from this society if I need to but that is a last resort. We need creative ideas on how to stop this run away train and regain control.

Manitoba produces 97% of its electricity from green renewable hydro and has the lowest electricity rates in North America. The residential rate is 5 cents/kW-hr whereas the average US rate is 11.33 cents/kW-hr.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table...

I am happy to pay less than half of what you pay. Green energy is worth a lot to Manitoba. We produce twice what we consume and sell the surplus to the US at double the price. The profits pay for roads, schools, hospitals, etc. that I would otherwise have to pay for with income tax. Manitoba is investing in more renewable technologies to increase output and earn more profits.

I would.

But since my electricity bill is <£100/year (I split it with my housemates), I'd be paying under £2.30/month.

Honestly, if your electricity bill is over $350/month or $4k/yr then I'd suggest there are ways you could save huge amounts of cash just by using less.

Actually, I might if it were a truly environmentally friendly alternative that could stand on its own (no subsidies). What's happening in LA is simply a transfer payment.

Yes. Cuz Obama's gonna give me dem energy tax credits and we'z gonna cheat dem filthy rich oil cumpanies ouuta all dem dollas dey stole frum us.