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Question for Muslim point of view (let's try this again...)?

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I’ve recently begun reading the Qu’ran and come across the following. Please keep in mind I haven’t read the entire book yet.

al-Baqarah

133 Or were ye present when death came to Jacob, when he said unto his sons: What will ye worship after me ? They said: We shall worship thy God, the God of thy fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac, One God, and unto Him we have surrendered.

Genesis 17

19 Then God said, "Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. [d] I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. 21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year." 22 When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.

From this we see that we both worship the same God (the God of Abraham) and that there were two sides to the first covenant. One with Isaac and one with Ishmael. Obviously these men were not Christians because the Christ hadn’t even been born yet. However, in your understanding of the following, would the new covenant of Christ make both sides of the older covenant obsolete? If not, is there a scriptural reference that explains why?

Old Testament:

Jeremiah 31:31

"The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.

New Testament:

Romans 7:6

But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Romans 7:5-7 (in Context) Romans 7 (Whole Chapter)

2 Corinthians 3:6

He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

2 Corinthians 3:5-7 (in Context) 2 Corinthians 3 (Whole Chapter)

2 Corinthians 5

16So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! 18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God. 21God made him who had no sin to be sin[a] for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Hebrews 9:15

For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

Hebrews 9:14-16 (in Context) Hebrews 9 (Whole Chapter)

Update:

Um Huda: I was comparing that verse with the one below it to show that the Qu'ran and Bible both speak of the same God. My question, after reading the other Bible verses provided below it, is what is the muslim point of view of Christ's new covenant?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Hi again =)

    http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&tid=3750

    I think this will help you understand what is behind this verse exactly.

    I understand you still did not get far in reading the Qur'an, but one redundant thing is that God's message never changes. It is always to worship Him and Him alone. Thus whenever a nation would go astray or disbelieve God would send another Prophet or Messenger to them to bring them back to the right path.

    So it's not really the idea of a new Messenger = a new code to follow. The final of the messages is the Qur'an and it completes the previous scriptures.

    This time though, it's not for just a certain nation or group of people. Rather it is for ALL mankind. From the day of it's revelation until the Day of Reckoning.

    EDIT;

    yes, I understand. Again if you read the link;

    "...Indeed, Islam is the religion of all the Prophets, even if their respective laws differed. Allah said {in the meaning of},

    (And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad ) [but We revealed to him (saying): La ilaha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allah)], so worship Me (alone and none else)) (21:25).

    There are many other Ayat - and Hadiths - on this subject. {which, the more you will read, the more you will find it's persistence and unified message}

    For instance, the Prophet said,

    (We, the Prophets, are brothers with different mothers, but the same religion.)

    Allah said {in the meaning of},

    (That was a nation who has passed away)

    meaning, existed before your time,

    (They shall receive the reward of what they earned and you of what you earn)...."

    Source(s): Basically think of it like this; Your favorite author has written two books that you just adore and declares that he will write the third and final one. Wouldn't you read it? Or think that the first two are sufficient and the third isn't necessary. Or if there is a newer edition of a operating system for your PC or a newer firmware, or the latest model of a car, would you look into them? And would you look into them assuming all the previous blemishes are taken care of and it's now the best thing out there? The 'new covenant' of Jesus that you are asking about is the parable of these...
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The thing is, Islam didn't exist in the times of Abraham.

    Islam was found by Mohummed in 1400 AD. Mohummed basically claimed that all Jewish prophets and kings, like David, Solomo, Isiah was really muslim. Mohummed declared Gods books ( The Bible and Torah) to be corrupt and fabrications.

    While Jesus came to full fill the Torah, the quran came to destroy Jesus' devinity and thus the salvation He has brought us.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    ask in the ramadan section where the muslims congregate.

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