noah's ark found in Ararat(Ağrı) in turkey?

✞ As a Christian it really does not have any bearing on my faith at all...I do however have a problem with the carbon dating because we know that it is not reliable...The older the object being dated the more of an error there is.......

What is really sad about this is this sort of video does little for the Creationist viewpoint, indeed it could easily end up make Creation Science more discredited than it already is. They spend most of their time showing people or lumps of ice and not the evidence. Why not measure things properly and show us close ups of the measurement so we can determine the size of the space they are in? Doing a diagonal measurement looks good when telling uneducated people how big a room is, but is next to useless for those who are seriously interested.

The only real evidence seems to be a bit of hessian rope, some very thin looking wooden poles or beams, some pipes, what looks like polystyrene packing foam, and some saw cut planks, and while I'm sure some of those things were on the real Ark, all we've seen is what is commonly produced in the last 200 years or today. I'm not a marine engineer, but my expectation for the poles / beams is they would have been much much thicker, especially as the Ark had to be built to withstand storms of an unknown but likely to be extremely severe scale. If those beams are really part of the Arks internal bracing or structure, then I believe it truly was a miracle they survived.

I can't help but wonder if they are in some sort of disused mine.

I hate to say it, but this has all the hallmarks of some sort of scam. Whether the people in the video are aware of it or not I don't know, but that guy Morris was right to have his reservations.

Edit: I think my house has bigger beams than the ones in that video.

It is a scam and has been debunked already buy one of the people that donated 100K to it. The other thing to note is that if creationist and other believers accept the carbon dating of the "ark" (even though I strongly doubt that any testing was done), then they also have to accept other carbon datings as being accurate, which means that the ark story is contradicted by continuous existing cultures around the world and other evidence of human migration.

They sent some wood for testing -- but not necessarily wood from their supposed "find."

In fact, a well-respected christian "explorer" who helped finance that Chinese expedition is claiming the whole thing is a fake, that the wood they sent did not come from the find itself, but from a structure not on the mountain that they already knew was about that old.

http://lamarzulli.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/now-the...

It's just another fake, trying to "lie for jesus" and getting caught at it. Again.

Peace.

It could have belonged to anyone.

Iranians, Greeks, Sumerians, Babylonians, Akkadians, Phoenicians, Egyptians, Akkadians, Elamites, and many more peoples had arks during that time.

There were also periodic floodings in the region.....

The Christian Science Monitor already reported the only real archeologist on the team quit because it was a hoax:

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-Issues/2010/...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/30/noahs-ark-...

Seriously...the fact that people are still talking about this shows the level of desperation that Christians have to find some evidence.

Noah's ark has been "found" over 20 times in different places.

1. What the reports of ark sightings have in common is that none has been corroborated. Most have few if any witnesses. Photographs and newspaper articles disappear, sometimes inexplicably, or they are too vague to be meaningful. Physical evidence either is not retrieved, is faked, or comes from recent wood carried up the mountain. They have the appearance of fables, not fact.

2. The reports are inconsistent. The ark has been found in different places on the mountain (and on different mountains, if you include earlier accounts). Its condition varies from almost intact to broken in half to only isolated timbers. The character of the wood varies from too hard to cut to falling apart at a touch. Some accounts make it sound like local residents visited the ark routinely, while other accounts stress the hardships encountered.

3. Noah's ark is the sort of subject that people would tell stories about. Some people might be motivated by misplaced piety to make up stories. Some have been motivated by money. Others might elaborate a story simply to get attention. Since the ark story is so famous, some people might conclude they have found the ark on the basis of ambiguous evidence. For example, they might misinterpret a blurry photograph or a shape seen through fog, or they might conclude that any wood they find is from the ark, although wood has been carried up Ararat in historical times for building crosses and huts.

P.S. Funny how the ancient Egyptians and Aborigines never noticed this global flooding, isn't it?

The whole story is lifted from earlier myths - like the epic of Gilgamesh.

Flood myths from around the world:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-my%E2%80%A6

Real flood science:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noah%E2%80%A6

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-%E2%80%A6

how silly the whole thing is:

http://skepticreport.com/sr/?p=475

Did you notice?

* The alleged find is about 400 years too old to be Noah's ark.

* The article on LiveScience was written by their "bad science" columnist

http://www.livescience.com/history/noahs-ark-disco...

* How did you determine it wasn't Utnapishtim's ark?

More about this nonsense: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/04/latest_...

Have they filmed it's plaque with this title on it yet: "Noah's ark"?

It's funny how quick fundies are to embrace radio-carbon dating when it suits their purposes.

it was found there before.