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Does the loving God Jehovah and his loving Son want the wicked to cook in hell or is that a pagan teaching?
Ask about terrorists, but hey my god is going to roast these same innocents [people in hell], isn't he?
VANAMALI said about Times Square bombing suspect's life, "Terrorists come from religions that preach hate - that is easy to say. When a religion says our way is the only way, everyone else is going to hell - it becomes easier for a terrorist to kill non-believers since they are going to hell anyway...etc. etc.
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Is Jehovah's Witnesses the only ones not making God all mean to the wicked ones forever in hell? And noted Jesus went to hell too? If Jesus went there too what is the honest truth about the meaning hell, if we can handle the truth? And why are the ones who want people to go there more meaner than the ones they want to go there? And note Jehovah's Witnesses will not mix in war or government business so not to kill their enemies, neighbors, or brothers in the faith because they do not hate anyone just like their God Jehovah and his Son Jesus do not hate anyone. They would love it if all would repent so no one need to go to the everlasting grave of mankind. But each has to repent by their own free will not to end up there! Simply put! So is hell where wicked people cook forever or sleep forever if we notice what the Bible in truth says? Terrorists do not come from those who teach accurate truth from the Bible. “Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says Jehovah.” (Romans 12:19) Sound like anyone who worship Jehovah can be a terrorist if take to heart it is not our fight but Jehovah's? Slaves of the true God are not mean people! Simply put! The earth will be a great place with only that kind left on it, true? So repent if you want to be there! What is hell in truth?
Hellfire—All-Consuming?
"Could it be that the fire of hell is symbolic of all-consuming, or thorough, destruction? Separating fire from Hades, or hell, the Scriptures say: "Death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire." "The lake" mentioned here is symbolic, since death and hell (Hades) that are thrown into it cannot literally be burned. "This [lake of fire] means the second death"—death from which there is no hope of coming back to life.—Revelation 20:14.
The lake of fire has a meaning similar to that of "the fiery Gehenna [hell fire, King James Version]" that Jesus spoke of. (Matthew 5:22; Mark 9:47, 48) Gehenna occurs 12 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures, and it refers to the valley of Hinnom, outside the walls of Jerusalem. When Jesus was on earth, this valley was used as a garbage dump, "where the dead bodies of criminals, and the carcasses of animals, and every other kind of filth was cast." (Smith's Dictionary of the Bible) The fires were kept burning by adding sulfur to burn up the refuse. Jesus used that valley as a proper symbol of everlasting destruction. As does Gehenna, the lake of fire symbolizes eternal destruction. Death and Hades are "hurled into" it in that they will be done away with when mankind is freed from sin and the condemnation of death. Willful, unrepentant sinners will also have their "portion" in that lake. (Revelation 21:8) They too will be annihilated forever. On the other hand, those in God's memory who are in hell—the common grave of mankind—have a marvelous future."
By the resurrection of the dead righteous and unrighteous here on earth but not the wicked they are annihilated forever or a sleep forever not cooking forever like Adam and Eve back to dust forever! Simply put! A wicked person will go back to dust and simply sleep and be no problem for the righteous ever again! A loving end for them not a mean one. The mean idea came from the pagan world outside the Bible. It is a wicked thing to add a wicked lie to God's word of truth! That will send a person to the Bible hell grave forever! Terrorists ideas come from outside God's word because it says vengeance is Jehovah's job not our job! So teach loving truth and live righteous lives free from lies and killing! See John 8:44 so to know who not to be like! Just put > John 8:44 < in search.
Again John 8:44 from English Standard Version "You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies." Using our American law as an example "The Eighth Amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted." Cruel, fierce, ferocious, barbarous, inhuman, savage, vicious does that not sound like the liar murderer character of the Devil not our loving God Jehovah? If your hellfire teachings have the same character as the Devil who is the father of those teachings? Is not terrorists action and hellfire teaching from that same cruel character? Wake up and notice the cruel character of hellfire does not fit the loving God Jehovah of the Bible! Do you love a Mafia godfather kind of god or a loving one?
Suzy said, "Pagan teaching. The word Hell was never in the original text of the Holy Scriptures. The words used were in Hebrew and Greek, Sheol and Hades. Both these words mean, 'mankind's common grave'. Remember when Lazarus died? He was dead for 4 days, must have been getting pretty ripe wouldn't you say? Jesus brought him back from the dead and did he ever say he was in Heaven? He never said a word about it. If he was, that would have been very cruel, to bring him back to earth again after being in Heaven."
Cruel and unusual punishments inflicted on anyone never crossed Jehovah's mind see at Jeremiah 32:35 New Living Translation (©2007)
"They have built pagan shrines to Baal in the valley of Ben-Hinnom, and there they sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molech. I have never commanded such a horrible deed; it never even crossed my mind to command such a thing. What an incredible evil, causing Judah to sin so greatly!" A place of eternal torment is something detestable to God, inconsistent with his love. See 1 John 4:8 King James Bible "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love." So if a person believes in cruel and unusual eternal torment he cannot know Jehovah God in truth! Like many human laws who cannot see cruel and unusual punishments as a just way of doing things the same goes for Jehovah more so! What an incredible evil, religious leaders causing people to sin so greatly in their pagan religious teachings! Jehovah said,
"it never even crossed my mind to command such a thing." Why do people try so hard to make Jehovah a person he is not? Sound like the liar murderer character of the Devil not our loving God Jehovah, true? We will go to hell if we teach the Devils cruel pagan lies which make Jehovah look bad which is a cruel not wise thing to do! Not if we in truth love him!
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- steinbeck11Lv 61 decade agoFavorite Answer
The Jehovah's Witnesses have judged God by saying that His Word, the Scriptures, are not the Truth--the Bible is quite clear...Hell and the Second Death are a reality.
Psalm 19:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
Proverbs 9: 18 But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.(This verse is talking about the man who is engaged in adultery.)
Matthew 5: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Revelation 20: 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Rev. 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
"So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires," (Rom. 9:18)
"Just as it is written, 'God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes to see not and ears to hear not, down to this very day,'" (Rom. 11:8)
"The Lord has made everything for its own purpose, even the wicked for the day of evil," (Prov. 16:4)
"Who is there who speaks and it comes to pass, unless the Lord has commanded it? Is it not from the mouth of the Most High That both good and ill go forth?" (Lam. 3:37-38)
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." (Isaiah 45:7)
"And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of god: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them." Mark 4: 11-12
- SuzyLv 71 decade ago
Pagan teaching. The word Hell was never in the original text of the Holy Scriptures. The words used were in Hebrew and Greek, Sheol and Hades. Both these words mean, 'mankind's common grave'. Remember when Lazarus died? He was dead for 4 days, must have been getting pretty ripe wouldn't you say? Jesus brought him back from the dead and did he ever say he was in Heaven? He never said a word about it. If he was, that would have been very cruel, to bring him back to earth again after being in Heaven.
- Anonymous5 years ago
Negative. One thing that non-theists fail to understand time and time again is that He (God) sends no one to hell. NO ONE. It's you and your actions that send you there. He wants nothing more than for us to be with Him in Heaven someday. Like a parent, He loves us. Is it so much to ask to love Him back and to trust and obey Him? Like you would your parent? No. But because we can't see Him, people automatically dismiss His existence and say He isn't real and insult Him every chance they get. Through your actions and way of life, you choose where you want to be and that's where you'll go, be it Heaven or Hell. That's free will. You have a choice as to what you want to do/where you want to go. That's not forcing anyone to do anything.
- Mr. ImmortelLv 71 decade ago
I concur with all that Suzy said. In addition, the teaching of hellfire is not in the Bible either. Fire is a symbol of complete destruction of the living, in death, without any chance of a resurrection.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
The hellfire doctrine is a pagan teaching. Eccl. 9:5, 10: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going.”
- An Earthly HopeLv 61 decade ago
That is just one of the major pagan lies that Satan keeps alive and is being spread by those who don't study the bible. They're only interest is in passing the collection plate.
John 8:44 YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie].
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Virtually everything you said (unattributed by the way) the Bible and Christianity teaches against.
As for Hell, the damned damn themselves, against God's Will, that is totally clear :
"—it is fearful, but it is right to say it;—that if we wished to imagine a punishment for an unholy, reprobate soul, we perhaps could not fancy a greater than to summon it to heaven. Heaven would be hell to an irreligious man. We know how unhappy we are apt to feel at present, when alone in the midst of strangers, or of men of different tastes and habits from ourselves. How miserable, for example, would it be to have to live in a foreign land, among a people whose faces we never saw before, and whose language we could not learn. And this is but a faint illustration of the loneliness of a man of earthly dispositions and tastes, thrust into the society of saints and angels. How forlorn would he wander through the courts of heaven! He would find no one like himself; he would see in every direction the marks of God's holiness, and these would make him shudder. He would feel himself always in His presence. He could no longer turn his thoughts another way, as he does now, when conscience reproaches him. He would know that the Eternal Eye was ever upon him; and that Eye of holiness, which is joy and life to holy creatures, would seem to him an Eye of wrath and punishment. God cannot change His nature. Holy He must ever be. But while He is holy, no unholy soul can be happy in heaven. "
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Anyone who does not want to be in God's kingdom which is any person who rejects him as LORD will die and return to dust as we say at our funeral services and it says in the bible in Genesis 3:19, the grave is hell and hell fire is a misunderstanding of the bible but you have already explained this except that God wants us all in his kingdom but will not force anyone who does not want to be there, it is our choice.
- MindyLv 61 decade ago
The Bible's answer is convincing and the absolute truth.
If the teaching that God Almighty allows the wicked to be cooked in Hell were true then the question of exactly WHAT is it that's cooking comes into play.
Is it the body of the wicked that's supposedly cooking in Hell?
Is it the soul of the wicked that's supposedly cooking in Hell?
Or is it the spirit of the wicked that's supposedly cooking in Hell?
WHAT is it that's cooking / roasting / burning in this supposed Hellfire that is taught within the religions of Christendom?
Contrary to the teaching of Christendom that we humans HAVE a soul, the Bible actually teaches that we humans ARE souls (huge difference). That's why when you see a poor little kid outside in the cold you might say; "Aw the poor little soul". You mean the PERSON, not some "mysterious" thing inside the person.
"And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man CAME TO BE A LIVING SOUL."
~Genesis 2:7~
The Bible says that man "came to be a living soul", not that man was GIVEN a soul. Man IS a soul.
The result of man's (Adam) sinning against God in the garden is the end result of ALL of us. Contrary to the teachings of Christendom, the Bible teaches at Romans 5:12 that we get what was passed onto us from and as a result of Adam:
"That is why, just as through one man (Adam) sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned"
~Romans 5:12~
What was the penalty for Adam's sin/disobediance to God? Was it to be roasted in a burning hellfire for all eternity? Nope, not at all or anything of the sort! The Bible tells of God's judgement to Adam where it says:
"In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you RETURN TO THE GROUND, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and TO DUST YOU WILL RETURN.”
~Genesis 3:19~
Before God created Adam from the dust of the ground and blew the breath of life into his nostrils as stated at Genesis 2:7... Adam did not exist. By God telling Adam that he would return back to the ground from which he was taken, he was telling him that he was going to go back to being NONEXISTENT. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach that Adam was sentenced to a fiery place of torment.
Now, THINK about this, does it seem even remotely reasonable to you that God Almighty, the Supreme JUDGE of all the earth would sentence the once PERFECT man Adam to nonexistence but would sentence IMPERFECT wicked humans to burn forever in torment?
What kind of God are the people of Christendom serving and worshiping?! No wonder many people are appalled by Christendom's god. However, Christendom's god is not the Almighty God of the Bible whose name is Jehovah (Psalm 83:18).
Moving on with the Bible's truth that the dead return to a state of NONEXISTENCE, the Bible book of Ecclesiastes, written by King Solomon under inspiration of God's holy spirit (2 Timothy 3:16, 17) at chapter 9 and verses 5 & 10 says the following about the CONDITION of the dead:
"For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious OF NOTHING AT ALL, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten....
All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in She′ol (the grave), the place to which you are going."
~Ecclesistes 9:5, 10~
So then, let those who believe that the Bible teaches the burning of people in a literal place of fiery torment answer me this, HOW can a dead person FEEL pain when God's Word the Bible teaches that the dead "are conscious OF NOTHING AT ALL"?
How can the wicked person's "soul" be burning when the Bible teaches that the soul IS the person?
How can the human soul that sinned survive forever to be TORMENTED when the Bible simply states:
"Look! All the souls—to me they belong. As the soul of the father so likewise the soul of the son—to me they belong. The soul that is SINNING—it itself will DIE."
~Eziekiel 18:4~
The Bibles termonology of "the lake of fire" at Revelation 20:14 is completely SYMBOLIC and the scripture itself proves this by saying:
"And DEATH and HA′DES (Hell) were hurled into the lake of fire. This means THE SECOND DEATH, the lake of fire."
~Revelation 20:14~
Since DEATH and HELL (Ha'des) can't literally be burned, it HAS TO BE symbollic and it is by telling the reader that the lake of fire means or stands for the second death. It is a state of no returning from, eternal non-existence. The Bible clearly teaches that the time is coming when God will do away with death forever (Revelation 21:2-4) and the common grave of mankind (aka Hell or Hades) will be done away with forever also... as if destroyed by fire.
The teaching that God burns the wicked alive forever is completely FALSE and makes God out to be a MONSTER! It is a teaching of the devil to MISLEAD people about the true God Jehovah and his awesome ways.
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Source(s): I proudly (Jeremiah 9:24) study the Bible intensely with Jehovah's Witnesses. - MSBLv 71 decade ago
Actually, no, people going to hell is not something you find in Pagan religions. Mainly Christian.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
do u evan know anything about pagans? or a wiccan ? please if u don't know 1 don't talk about there religion as if there Satan worshiping real pagans don't believe in any form of satan pagans and wiccans worship the earth and spirits