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RBI or not ? Please consider this brief baseball scenario - I believe there is no RBI to award here, do you?
One out, runners on first and third, batter hits a tapper in front of the plate, batter runs for first base, catcher picks up ball, fires to second base (presumably with intent of turning a 2-6-3 double play to end inning) - the catcher's throw is high, sails into centerfield, the runner on third scores easily ...
... You are the official scorer - is there any way the batter is awarded an RBI ? ...
... my guess is the only way an RBI could be awarded is if the catcher's throw was on target, the shortstop catches it cleanly and makes the relay throw to first base - but the batter beats the throw ... once the catch made the error I assume it's a closed case - NO RBI awarded ?
the batter did have above average speed - and - the runner on third broke for home as soon as the catcher threw toward second base - but i think both those points are irrelevant
for the 2nd answerer -- the reason i mentioned the batter had above average speed is, i doubt the defense would have converted the double play, even with two perfect throws and catches - my thought was, if no error was commited and the batter simply beat the throw, then the scorebook would say he reached on a FC (fielder's choice) and the RBI would be awarded --- but it's a judgement call by the official scorer - if the defense didn't execute the play to the best of their ability, maybe the SS double clutches because the ball sticks in his mitt or he messes up the footwork, and the batter is safe at first despite no error being made - then the official scorer could say no RBI -- that's why I said I think it can only be an RBI if the defense plays it perfectly but the batter still beats the throw from SS to 1B .... so, I guess I'm asking, am I correct - is it a judgement call by the official scorer or is it cut-and-dry so-to-speak?
surprised no one has quoted a rule book ..
6 Answers
- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Fielder's choice, error on the catcher, run scores, RBI for the batter.
The official scorer never assumes the double play is going to happen. He can assume one out would happen, in which case the batter gets the RBI. That the error got mixed in there and let everyone be safe doesn't materially change what would have happened to the runner from third -- IF he was running. If his carcass was parked on third and he didn't start moving until the ball sailed away, that perhaps would not be an RBI, but that would be pretty bad baserunning, as he should at least have been taking a healthy lead.
- 18 gibbs 20Lv 71 decade ago
FIelder's choice with an error on the catcher. Batter gets an RBI. You can't presume a double play. It's cut and dry...
- david wLv 61 decade ago
Does not matter. Never assume the double play. Credit a fielder's choice, RBI, error on the catcher for the throw.
Period.
- My UsernameLv 51 decade ago
RBI for the batter,,, he was still "Batted In" by another player, error or no error,,,
edit: its a hit also,,, error on the FC (fielders choice), all runners safe, its a H and a RBI,,,
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- dartmanLv 41 decade ago
no rbi the catcher made an er trying to convert the double play,i say no in my opinion ...i can see them maybe saying the run still would have scored if he was safe at first, the reason i say no is becasue the double play would have ended the inning there for no run would have scored.
