Why such denial of reality? Why do some pretend that "C.E." for year-designations is not a Jesus-based system?

Because historians have provided some pretty solid proof that Jesus wasn't even actually born 0 or 1 or whatever is was A.D. It's really not accurate to say A.D. unless you shift all your years by 5-6.

No, no one thinks that using AD or CE will cause either a sudden conversion to or from Christianity, but it makes that system easier to use for those 4 billion other non-Christians all over the world.

It gives some nod to a cultural system which was spread by Christians because it would be too hard to get everyone to redefine this as year 0 New Era or 432 Scientific Era or something. EVERY system we would propose would be similarly based on someone's prejudice. And anyway if we had the stomach for such change we'd redefine the length of the hour minute and second so we could get rid of those damn leap years.

Today's the last day of May, named after the Roman goddess Maia, (and a Monday, named after Mani, Norse god of the Moon). Tomorrow is the first day of June, named after Juno, Roman queen of the gods, and a Tuesday, named after Tyr, Norse god of war.

The year reckoning from the Gregorian calendar is just a convention, it implies no religious orientation. That they invented the calendar to count the years since the supposed birth of Jesus, that doesn't make a historical Jesus any more real than Maia, Juno, Mani, or Tyr.

It is because the person who invented the year dating system thought Jesus did exist. In fact they know know it to be about by at least 5 years from when he wa supposed to have existed in the first place.

It does not prove that Jesus existed, simply it only proves that something who came along afterwards thought he did. I mean we have to number years some how do we not?

Jesus was one of the last "god/saviors. Osiris came well before him.

Doesn't matter what we call the CE or AD. Christianity is nothing new, nothing unique. It's a splinter group from Jewish beliefs. It is a practical copy of the beliefs that came before it.

Which were many, many of them and all very similar to the Jesus story.

Another way to look at it is bz - before zeus became god - and az - after zeus became god.

They will look to change times and dates - and they HAVE!!!

xtianity brought with it a time of persecution, torture, murder, hysteria and destruction of any history that gave evidence against the church. xtianity keeps shapeshifting into new denominations and then takes no responsibility for its own history - saying those weren't real xtians.

You shall know them by their fruit.

Of course it's based on Jesus. The PC just want to make everybody happy that's all.

@Joe, a few years hear or there don't matter. The Western calendar is based on that One.

Thursday means Thor exists! January means Janus exists!

it doesn't matter

i prefer C.E.

you prefer A.D.

get a life

Gods aren't historical anyways (a miracle made by a universe making god = turning water into wine for a croud? HAHA what crazy BS!)

Deniers don't believe that this will prompt anyone. The people arguing with you probably just don't know what they're talking about.