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If a convicted murderer gets parole, then runs, but becomes benefit to society?
Curious to see what people think about a murderer, who is given parole, then runs, becomes a good citizen, caught after 40 years.... should he go back to jail?
Answer these questions:
1) What is the purpose of jail? Why do we put people in jail?
2) Emotionally a family of the victim will want punishment, but it's just selfish emotion. Aren't we supposed to forgive and support a creature who used to be evil and dangerous but has proven over 40 years that they have absolutely changed?
3) Tax payers will have to pay for his remaining years in jail.
4) a grandfather was murdered 40 years ago, are you really going to be all emotional or want revenge on some old guy who was dangerous as a kid but regrets it now that he's an old man?
Just as an analogy, let's see if you agree.... your child steals your car and wrecks it, you sentence your kid to 3 months grounded. They are grounded for a month, you let them out early, but they run away. 20 years later you find each other again, your child is a doctor, and has children of their own..... you lock them back up in the bedroom and say they owe you 2 months of grounding? I know, extreme analogy, because it isn't murder, but same sort of issue here.
And this is in regard to that guy Frank Dryman, you can search for him on yahoo to see the article.
Desk3bound and og, good answers to ponder. Some answers are soooo narrow minded. I want to see some depth here. Lady Catherine, my gosh, it's called an "analogy"! But it is exactly the same premise. It's someone doing something wrong when they are young, and continuing the punishment after a long time. Who thinks that they are the EXACT same person with the same morals now, as opposed to when you were let's say, 20 years old? I'd like to see someone who is over 30 admit that they have not learned anything, no morals, no wisdom, and are as stupid as they were when they were 20. A man who kills at 22, who has emotional and mental problems, hormones? testosterone? Who knows, but 40 years later, who has stayed out of trouble, I would say he's reformed and he's a different person.
I can't believe the number of people who don't understand the concept of analogies. Of course my analogy isn't the same as murder... it's an analogy.
So basically, an analogy is :
: resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : similarity b : comparison based on such resemblance
So yes, a child wrecking a car and getting grounded is not exactly like murdering someone. Go figure, it's an ANALOGY!!!
I don't want anybody to agree with me, I just want to see some depth and good debate rather than narrow minded social slave drivel. Some of you have really good points, and some of you have really helped me understand and see many viewpoints and I thank you for that!
9 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
These soulsearching questions have been asked by philosophers and academics for over 6,000 years, what to do with the malefactor?
Today in the USA there are over 3 million incarcerated (which costs the taxpayer big bucks for the up keep). Now if Judges incarcerated every law breaker, there would probably be 10 million in prison.
Now don't forget that the legal system is not infallible and puts innocent people in prison for 20 or 30 years. Not everybody in prison is guilty. Massachusetts has the second highest rate of wrongful incarceration in the nation, and men who have done 30 years in a Massachusetts penitentiary have been exonorated by Science (DNA testing) and not Jurisprudence (law).
So what would you do if you were a Judge? Is prison for punishment or rehabilitation? What do you do with the repeat offender? What do you do with the hardcore criminal? What do you do with a man proven innocent after 30 years in prison (and he was raped, beaten, wrongfully sent to solitary confinement, etc. while incarcerated.)????
- Lori MLv 41 decade ago
1) What is the purpose of jail? Why do we put people in jail? To keep the filth and trash who can not function as proper human beings away from the rest of society to reform and rehabilitate when possible.
2) Emotionally a family of the victim will want punishment, but it's just selfish emotion. Aren't we supposed to forgive and support a creature who used to be evil and dangerous but has proven over 40 years that they have absolutely changed? No it isn't selfish to want a murder put away it's smart to want a murderer put away who wants all the murderers running around all free and stuff to kill more people? Gesh! But in the case of the guy who served his 20 I say as long as he's being a good boy live and let live he served out his time!
3) Tax payers will have to pay for his remaining years in jail.
Drain on tax payers to make her serve the remaining years for a small violation at least he didn't murder someone!
4) a grandfather was murdered 40 years ago, are you really going to be all emotional or want revenge on some old guy who was dangerous as a kid but regrets it now that he's an old man? I cna't answer that one it wasn't my grandfather so no way to know how I would personally feel.
- RichardLv 71 decade ago
1. Jail serves a few purposes, one to remove someone we consider a danger to society out of society. Two to punish someone for a wrong that person did. Three to serve as a deterrent to others. Although he may no longer pose a threat, but he never finished he sentence. Also with him going back to prison that will send a message to other thinking about walking away from parole. That message is if you don’t follow the rules we will get you no matter how long it takes.
2. But you forget something. For someone to seek forgiveness they must first admit their wrong, make amends, and accept their punishment. Then they can ask for forgiveness from their victims. He admits killing, he hasn’t made amends, and he didn’t accept his punishment. He has only completed one of those things. Also you don’t really know his history; we only have his word that he’s changed. And a good person would accept reasonability for their actions. The victims don’t have to forgive, but those are the step he needed to take.
3. That’s a non-issue, we put people in jail everyday and the taxpayers pay for it.
4) a grandfather was murdered 40 years ago, are you really going to be all emotional or want revenge on some old guy who was dangerous as a kid but regrets it now that he's an old man?
4. Is it revenge or justice? He has had a life he denied to someone else, he had a chance to walk away clean and he chose not to. Even thing bad in his life was his choice. He chose to kill someone, he chose to walk away from parole. He wasn’t sorry that killed someone he was sorry he’s got to pay for it.
- JekloLv 61 decade ago
I am only going to answer your first question because that's all it takes - as I spent quite some time on this article earlier this morning.
He violated his parole. When you violate your parole most of the time you go back to jail with your parole/probation revoked. His original sentence was life in prison...He evaded police for 40 years.
He has no respect for the man's family he killed as he couldn't even remember the man's name whom he shot and killed. That family was likely traumatized by this man's disappearance. Probably constantly looking over their shoulder's wondering if this killer will come back for them. Meanwhile, this guy got to live his life and have a family while their murdered family member did not. The family who deserved justice did not receive it.
This man does not deserve to walk free. Its not like he ran a red light. He took another man's life in cold blood. Shot the man in the back - 6 TIMES...C'mon now, you really think just because he's old its ok? He had his chance to make things right when he was on parole. He took away his own rights when he ran off.
One example because yours is a little out there and has nothing to do with the law...and its completely a different situation but has the same end result. Let's say you somehow evade paying your taxes for 40 years unnoticed (or even just 5-10 years). Then one day someone turns you in. You may have donated money/goods to charity, completed hundreds of hours of volunteer work, been an upstanding citizen, helped every elderly neighbor across the street/get their groceries, ect, but do you think the law will see it that way? No.
And this Frank deserves what he has...life in jail.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
You're assuming that someone who has committed murder could possibly become a good citizen and a benefit to society. If this person really wanted to be a benefit to society, why did he commit murder in the first place? Why did he run away from parole and become a fugitive?
There's nothing about "forgive and forget" in state or federal law. You do the crime, you do the time. Once a criminal, always a criminal. A lot of criminals later regret their actions and swear up and down that they've changed, but someone who committed a crime in 1951 is the same person in 2010, just with more wrinkles and more gray hair.
Source(s): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Jane_Olson - ?Lv 45 years ago
Well, everyone knows that homicide isn't regularly homicide. But stabbing a pregnant girl numerous occasions whilst in a drug crazed trance undoubtedly IS homicide, and that girl will have to by no means be published. All instances will have to be addressed as man or woman instances (as they're now). Whether or now not a assassin will have to be paroled will have to be fully founded at the specifics of the crime and their present instances. Lockerbie Bomber will have to die in prison too.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I saw the article ,too. He shot a man in the back 6 times . You escape for 40 years ... The family still has to live without their loved one ... Problem here is he did his time . All he's guilty of is breaking parole after serving 20 years ....Why bother putting him in jail for the rest of his life now for jumping parole ?
- LadyCatherineLv 71 decade ago
and.... how about the guards at the concentration camps,, they butchered people and killed them and when the war was over they became 'better' people.. should they get off too..?
frank KILLED people this is hardly a comparison to a child recking a car.. no it is not the same issue.. you kill someone you have to pay the price, you can't just hide for a long time and then we go. 'oh well, a long time has passed, lets let him go and forget about"..