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Why do people put Hadiths in equal level to Quran?
I don't understand why people would do that? It's one thing to follow Muhammad, but we don't know if that was Muhammad's words or not. You see, El Quran was written during Muhammad's time, the Hadiths were all written 200 years after Muhammad died by El-Bokhary. The way they knew it was people would listen to Muhammad, they would tell their kids, their kids would tell their kids and on. For 200 years! When you play a game of telephone for 1 minute, the subject changes either slightly or immensely. That's 1 minute, imagine 200 years!!
If people are still fighting to believe in the Hadiths, well there is a Hadith that Muhammad said that tells to take only from the Quran. And why stop their? Lets take it up to the Quran, God said "Fa be ay hadithen ba3d Allah to'mino be" Meaning "Do not follow any Hadith after God" That is crystal clear from the words of God himself.
Yet people still take from the words of Imam's and mufasereen. Saying stuff like El Hijab/niqab, or stuff like the beard. And do you know what this got people to do? They put Muhammad equal to God... They are doing the very thing Korish was doing. Mushrikeen. If you've ever sat down in a Friday preaching, they talk more about Muhammad than God. A preacher than say the name of God a thousand time and nobody will move not even say SWT or Aza wa jal, but once he says Muhammad the mosque shakes from the people yelling PBUH. What about God, what about the one who created Muhammad, who created You? Who created Islam and Christianity, and Judiasim. Who created Jesus and Moses, who created Everything! How could we not respect God like that and take our religion from people who want to trade with religion Amr Khaled or even Hassan El-Banna long ago. Just why?
@ Ibrahim, I never said that we don't listen to Muhammad (PBUH) I'm saying how do we even know that he said that? It's not that I don't trust Muhammad, it's that I don't trust the people who brought his Hadiths to me. Are you aware that Abu-Horaira was known for being a liar? And that he present with Muhammad for only 2 years. Yet 90% of the Hadiths came from him... It makes you wonder. That's why I say, the Quran is what's not been touched, the Quran never contradicts it's versus, Hadith's do,.
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- ?Lv 51 decade agoFavorite Answer
Putting Hadiths at the level of the Quran is wrong. There is no doubt about it.
However, the information and argument you have produced are,
a) NON-FACTUAL such as "gap of 200 years in collecting Hadiths."
b) MISUNDERSTOOD such as "Fa be ay hadithen ..."
c) IRRELEVANT such as "mosque shakes from the people yelling PBUH."
- YY4MeLv 71 decade ago
If Mohammad was illiterate, as many claim he was, he couldn't possibly have known if what he said was what was actually written down. Also, there's evidence that the koran has been changed over the years, so no one can possibly know what Mohammad actually said. Add to that the fact that there's no evidence that any god exists, and there's no reason to believe a word of it.
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The Koran Unveiled
http://secweb.infidels.org/?kiosk=articles&id=761
[Excerpt]
"During restorations of the Great Mosque at Sana'a in 1972, Koranic texts from the seventh and eighth century (the Yemeni fragments) were found, revealing earlier versions of the Koran. In places, the text even shows traces of a previous text which was erased before the final text was written over it. Evidence is mounting that the Koran was written and edited over time. ..."
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Querying the Koran
Orthodox Muslims believe that this ancient Islamic text is
the unchanging Word of God. One scholar is daring to question it
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2000/aug/08/hi...
[Excerpt]
"Until now, there were three ancient copies of the Koran. One copy in the Library of Tashkent in Uzbekistan, and another in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul, Turkey, date from the eighth century. A copy preserved in the British Library in London, known as the Ma'il manuscript, dates from the late seventh century. But the Sa'na manuscripts are even older. Moreover, the Sa'na manuscripts are written in a script that originates from the Hijaz - the region of Arabia where the prophet Mohammed lived, which makes them not only the oldest to have survived, but one of the earliest copies of the Koran ever.
"Puin noticed minor textual variations, unconventional ordering of the chapters (surahs), as well as rare styles of orthography. Then he noticed that the sheets were palimpsests - manuscripts with versions written even earlier that had been washed off or erased.
"These findings led Dr Puin to assert that the Koran had undergone a textual evolution. In other words, the copy of the Koran that we have is not the one believed to have been revealed to the prophet."
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What is the Koran?
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/199901/koran
[Excerpt]
Since the early 1980s more than 15,000 sheets of the Yemeni Korans have painstakingly been flattened, cleaned, treated, sorted, and assembled; they now sit ("preserved for another thousand years," Puin says) in Yemen's House of Manuscripts, awaiting detailed examination. That is something the Yemeni authorities have seemed reluctant to allow, however. "They want to keep this thing low-profile, as we do too, although for different reasons," Puin explains. "They don't want attention drawn to the fact that there are Germans and others working on the Korans. They don't want it made public that there is work being done at all, since the Muslim position is that everything that needs to be said about the Koran's history was said a thousand years ago."
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Source(s): . ~ "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." ~ . - Um HudaLv 61 decade ago
Firstly:
It is essential that it be established in the mind and heart of every Muslim that the Sunnah – which is the words, deeds and approval that are attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – is one of the two parts of divine Revelation that were revealed to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The other part of the Revelation (Wahy) is the Holy Qur’aan.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
4. It is only a Revelation revealed”
[al-Najm 53:3-4]
It was narrated from al-Miqdaam ibn Ma’di Yakrib (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“Verily I have been given the Qur’aan and something similar to it along with it. But soon there will be a time when a man will be reclining on his couch with a full stomach, and he will say, ‘You should adhere to this Qur’aan: what you find that it says is permissible, take it as permissible, and what you find it says is forbidden, take it as forbidden.’ But indeed, whatever the Messenger of Allaah forbids is like what Allaah forbids.”
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/77243/
If you really question the ahadeeth then I suggest you read into the sciences of it and understand more about how they are classified and the authenticity of them.
A good author and scholar in this matter is Shiekh Yasir Qadhi. Feel free to search and read his books on these topics inshaAllah.
@ASKER; I don't believe that you dared to call the companion of the Prophet, pbuh, a liar. You do not have any sound or logical explanation for your accusation of Abu Huraira (R) and to make matters worse,... we are still in Ramadan and you spread lies....
Source(s): @YY4Me; The Prophet, pbuh, had the scribes read what they wrote down after he recited what was revealed. He would then correct them if a mistake was made and this was to the letter. The scribes would then read again what they wrote after he corrected them and if it was still incorrect he would correct them again, and they'd re-read it to him to make sure again. The Qur'an being recited by millions of Muslims and memorized by heart word for word, letter for letter, since the time of revelation to this very day, then I can promise you and fully believe that the Qur'an has not been changed and that indeed the Prophet, pbuh, knew what was being written. Not only did the scribes confirm what they wrote, but the people who memorized it would learn from him, pbuh, and others who memorized too. Thus it's all the same. Not only that but since the completion of its revelation which took 23 years, the angel Gabriel would review every year, and twice the year he died in, the complete Qur'an in the order that it is in now. Not the order it was revealed in, but the very same order it is now. Do you realize that sometimes verses only were revealed, and other times a complete chapter would be revealed like that of surah Yusuf, or Chapter of Joseph? Did you know that after revelations the scribes would write down what was revealed? Are you now doubting that the scribes would have been told to put certain verses or chapters before or after another certain one as the way God had ordered it via angel Gabriel? I question your information on the Qur'an. - Ibrahim ILv 41 decade ago
59:7 That which Allah giveth as spoil unto His messenger from the people of the townships, it is for Allah and His messenger and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, that it become not a commodity between the rich among you. And whatsoever the messenger giveth you, take it. And whatsoever he forbiddeth, abstain (from it). And keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is stern in reprisal.
33: 21Verily in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.