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Top loads for each caliber
Brand	Bullet	Shootings	One Shot Stops	Percent	Diameter	Penetration
Federal 308	168 gr Match	112	110	98%	0"	24.9"
Remington 223	69 gr JHP	40	39	98%	0.32"	16.9"
Federal 357 Magnum	125 gr JHP	641	615	96%	0.74"	11.1"
Federal 45 ACP	230 gr HS	173	166	96%	0.76"	13.9"
PMC 30-30	150 gr SF	44	42	95%	0.53"	19.6"
Remington 40 S&W	165 gr GS	146	137	94%	0.7"	13.9"
Remington 45 ACP +P	185 gr JHP	77	71	92%	0.74"	12.9"
Winchester 44 Magnum	210 gr JHP	71	65	92%	0.81"	16.3"
Federal 357 SIG	125 gr JHP	24	22	92%	0.62"	12.3"
Federal 9 mm +P+	115 gr JHP	189	172	91%	0.71"	13.9"
Winchester 41 Magnum	170 gr ST	61	55	90%	0.68"	14.9"
Federal 10 mm	155 gr JHP	20	18	90%	0.73"	12.4"
Speer 9 mm +P	124 gr GD	74	65	88%	0.71"	13.6"
Winchester 30 Carbine	110 gr JSP	43	38	88%	0.42"	0"
Winchester 9 mm	115 gr ST	421	349	83%	0.64"	13.7"
Federal 45 Colt	225 gr LHP	36	29	81%	0.51"	14.9"
Winchester 38 Special +P+	110 gr JHP	49	39	80%	0.64"	12.1"
Remington 38 Special +P	125 gr GS	10	8	80%	0.68"	12.4"
Winchester 44 Special	200 gr ST	70	53	76%	0.58"	13.8"
Federal 380 ACP	90 HS	96	68	71%	0.56"	9.4"
Winchester 32 ACP	gr ST	151	99	66%	0.41"	9.2"
Federal 38 Special	129 gr HS	77	50	65%	0.56"	10.2"
CCI Stinger 22 LR	HP	465	178	38%	0.28"	7.3"
Winchester 25 ACP	gr Expanding Point	204	55	27%	0.3"	8.9"

BT = Black Talon 	GS = Golden Saber 	GD = Gold Dot
HS = Hydra Shok 	ST = Silvertip 	LRN = Lead Round Nose
SWC = Semi Wadcutter 	JHP = Jacketed Hollow Point 	FMJ = Full Metal Jacket
Diameter and Penetration are the average from bullets recovered in actual shootings. All data taken from Evan Marshall and Ed Sanow's book: Stopping Power: A Practical Analysis of the Latest Handgun Ammunition and used with permission from the author.

John de Witt · Accepted Answer

Marshall and Sanow's study has been rightly criticized on many fronts, including some simple errors in arithmetic. And very few readers have enough background in statistics to interpret the data. It's useful in a vague and general way, but people get into heated arguments over comparisons between something that's "98%" and something else that's "92%" in the table, thinking that there's a 6% difference, when statistically there's no difference at all. If you've had enough math, it's a neat bit of light reading, but it's foolish to place a lot of confidence in a serious decision based on these numbers.

Zakonye · Answer

.44 Special is pretty low on the list.

Only issue is they didn't say how many shootings in each caliber were used to compile the data.  If 1,000 people were shot with the .38 special 125gr, but only 9 or 10 with the .30 Carbine, the data can be skewed.

Glacierwolf · Answer

is this old news?

I ask because it doesn't have the FN 5.7x28MM data - and that caliber has been all over the world for the past 12 years since 1998.  All of European NATO is moving to it.

Would have been nice if they showed a normal 22LR and not just the CCI Stinger.  Most people have very little experience with CCI Stingers because they are one of the more expensive ammos to buy.

? · Answer

They compare a .22 out of a six inch barrel to a .25 out of a one and a half inch barrel.

John Moses Browning specifically designed the .25 auto for a one and a half inch barrel.  

Go fire a .22 out of a one  and a half inch barrel into cardboard.  You will notice half the powder is blown out of the barrel.  Do the same with a .25.  Almost all the powder is burnt by the large centerfire primer.

Comparing a .22 out of a long barrel to a .25 out of a one and a half inch barrel is not a sign of high intelligence.

Anonymous · Answer

Sounds reasonable.  Some people with "little man's" attitude may refuse to believe that a .22 is better than a .25

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