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Isaiah 52:13 Behold, my servant shall deal wisely, he shall be exalted and lifted up, and shall be very high?

If Jesus was lifted up, who was crucified? Is Isaiah is false or Crucifixion is false?

Straight answer please.

Update:

If Jesus died voluntarily for the sins of others, why should he lamented on the cross as My Lord, My Lord why hast thou forsaken me? Mat 27:46, Mark 15:34.

the answers sacrifice etc are not meet the question?

If he had not been lifted, then say the verse is wrong.

There are answers to the question.

He was preparing to fight, by collecting swords, he ordered to sell garments and buy sword, he changed the ususal meeting place, He kept eight disciples out and two near him as security, and was praying god protect from the hands of Roman soldiers.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    Is the prophet hood of mohammad false or is the quran false?

    #1 Mohammad says in the quran 39:12

    SHAKIR: "And I am commanded that I shall be the first of those who submit."

    #2 Mohammad wrote whatever he heard. The trinity mohammad heard and wrote in the quran says (Surah 5:116, 5:73-75) the Christians believe in "three Gods" - Father, MOTHER, and Son.

    as against the one in the Bible "The Father, The Son & The Holy Spirit" (Mt 28:19)

    clearly showing he had no idea of the trinity.

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    #3 MOHAMMAD FAILED THE TEST OF PROPHET HOOD, if muhammad's allah was true, it would have informed him about the poisoned goat, which later led to his death.

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    Ibn Sa'd page 249:

    Verily a Jewish woman presented poisoned (meat of) a she goat to the apostle of Allah. He took a piece form it, put it into his mouth, chewed it and threw it away. Then he said to the Companions: "Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned." Then he sent for the Jewish woman and asked her; "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you, and if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you."

    ***PROPHET HOOD FAILED***: The question here is weather allah told muhammad that the goat is poisoned or not? CLEARLY NOT, as he had to put it in his mouth. Quran says "if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you" {muhammad would not eat the goat and he would not die} but because allah NEVER informed him, and muhammad was a liar he ate it and he died, just as the verse says "if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you."

    After all this even if Muhammad knew that it was poisoned, and he still put it (goat) in his mouth, he committed suicide.

    And if he came to know after chewing it, its nothing special as anybody would know after they chewed it, no need for special powers.

    #4 Mohammedans do not have any supporting evidence to prove mohammad was a prophet (other than he being a self proclaimed prophet, with hallucinations). He has not been mentioned in either of the earlier original texts (Torah/Bible).

    #5 Even if we agree that muhammad was illiterate, certain questions come up like, who wrote the quran?, if not muhammad then how did he verify what he was narrating to his biographers or his contemporaries, weather it was exactly what he wanted them to write?

    #6 To shove muhammad in the Torah/Bible mohammedans go to any extent, yet in the same breath they say the Torah/Bible is corrupted.

    #7 Muhammad forced the Arab moon god allah on everyone. I say this because, mohammad's father, A PAGAN, had the name Abdullah meaning servant of allah much before mohammad had his "revelations"

    #8 Muhammad was called a liar

    Muhammad informed Umar [the second Caliph], and he called the Prophet a liar. Ishaq:567.

    #9 Muhammad broke oaths as he wished and advised mohammedans to do the same

    If you ever take an oath to do something and later on you find that something else is better, then you should expiate your oath and do what is better." Sahih Bukhari 9:89:260

    #10 Muhammad himself did not know weather he was going to heaven, what's the fate of mohammedians?

    "By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do for me" (Hadith al-Bukhari 5:266)

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    #11 Mohammad being a false prophet did not perform any miracle.

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    The Qur'an very clearly says of Muhammad that he performed no signs. In Surah 6.37, when Muhammad's adversaries say "Why has no sign been sent down to him from his Lord?", Muhammad is bidden to reply merely that God could send one if he wanted to but had not done so.

    In the same Surah we read that Muhammad said, "I have not that for which you are impatient" (Surah 6.57), meaning signs and wonders such as Moses had. He goes on to say that if he had had them, the dispute between him and them would have been decided long ago.

    # 12 Muslims PRAY to Mohammad like he said to do:

    Tirmidhi relates, through his chain of narrators from 'Uthman ibn Hunayf, that a blind man came to the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and said, "I've been afflicted in my eyesight, so please pray to Allah for me." The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said: "Go make ablution (wudu), perform two rak'as of prayer, and then say:

    "Oh Allah, I ask You and turn to You through my Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet of mercy; O MUHAMMAD (YA MUHAMMAD), I SEEK YOUR INTERCESSION with my Lord for the return of my eyesight [and in another version: "for my need, that it may be fulfilled. O Allah, grant him intercession for me"]."

    Do the readers see how Muhammad specifically instructed the blind man to address him directly in his prayer? The blind man wasn’t told to simply pray to Allah asking him to heal him on behalf of Muhammad. He was also directed to address Muhammad directly and personally.

    Source(s): Thus, as per the quran mohammad founded muhammadanism.
  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    Isaiah is surely talking about Jesus, the Messiah to come. He is often referred as a servant, God calling him his greatest messenger in Malachi. Isaiah is saying he even as a servant will be praised, exalted, honored, glorified even being lifted up on a tree or cross as a common criminal but no man shall ever be lifted higher. Two thieves were also crucified that day but I do not believe that is part of your question. Crucifixion was not a new punishment of the state so who knows all who have been crucified? Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 speak of God apparently turning his face away from his Son. Two interpretations are often found. One, God dare not continue to watch his Son in his suffering, for he too might be tempted to remove him from the cross. Two, this is the moment of the fulfillment of God's promise to the Israelite in the book of Malachi. The renting of the gate to his holy of holy, where only the top priest entered once per year. It is this very act that opened the doors to God to the Gentiles. Luke 23:46 and JOhn 19:30 reflect the near last words of Jesus. They vary not in content but in expression. Both meaning that the life of Jesus in human form has accomplished what he sat out to accomplish, the wages of mankinds sins has been paid by his death. It is finished, it is over once and for all. Commending his soul to God is like saying the rest is up to Father. Raising me from the grave as victor over the grave and ascending to heaven is your task. So "I put my soul in your hands". Complete trust.

  • 1 decade ago

    According to Webster’s dictionary a cross is “a structure, typically an upright supporting a horizontal beam, anciently used in the execution of malefactors.” In the Bible the Greek word usually rendered cross is stauros. Its Latin equivalent is crux.

    Concerning the terms stauros and crux we are told that ‘stauros properly means merely a stake.’ “In Livy [Roman historian shortly before Christ’s ministry] even, crux means a mere

    stake.” “The Hebrews have no word for Cross more definite than ‘wood.’”3

    Acts 5:30 says: "30 The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, whom YOU slew, hanging him [Jesus] upon a stake. " Stake is just an upright beam and not a cross. Crucifixion was added to Christian doctrine to make pagans more comfortable with the idea of becoming Christian. The pagans were using crosses long before "Christianity."

  • 1 decade ago

    you have a narrow view of Christ mission and purpose. When you look at the Bible as a whole Old and New testament it is clear that Jesus was to be cut off. He is also going to rule and reign on the throne of David. In between there will be the tribulation period. Read Rev and look at the multitude bowing down and worshiping the Lamb who was slain...every knee shall bow every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. The scriptures often weave in and out and have near and far fulfillment's. The time Jesus took up the book of Isaiah and read 16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17 And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written:

    18 "The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me,

    Because He has anointed Me

    To preach the gospel to the poor;

    He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,

    To proclaim liberty to the captives

    And recovery of sight to the blind,

    To set at liberty those who are oppressed;

    19 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD."

    20 Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21 And He began to say to them, "Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."

    Jesus quoted from Isaiah 11 and stopped reading mid sentence...the rest of is And with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked.

    5 Righteousness shall be the belt of His loins,

    And faithfulness the belt of His waist.

    6 "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,

    The leopard shall lie down with the young goat,

    The calf and the young lion and the fatling together;

    And a little child shall lead them.

    7 The cow and the bear shall graze;

    Their young ones shall lie down together;

    And the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    8 The nursing child shall play by the cobra's hole,

    And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper's den.

    9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,

    For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD

    As the waters cover the sea.

    10 "And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse,

    Who shall stand as a banner to the people;

    For the Gentiles shall seek Him,

    And His resting place shall be glorious."

    the day of judgment had not been fulfilled not had the millenium arrived. Also Jesus left out the opening half of the first sentence in Isaiah 11:There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Jesse,

    And a Branch shall grow out of his roots. Jesus by pointing to this scripture was clearly claiming to be the Messiah..

    The being lifted up high in this context is difficult to pinpoint weather it is referring to the cross or the glory or perhaps both in one... but by any measure this is in now way a failure of Christ to attain or do all that is written of Him.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Over the centuries, Jewish scholars offered various opinions. Some claimed that he represented the whole nation of Israel during its Babylonian exile. But such an explanation does not match the prophecy. God’s Servant suffers voluntarily. Although innocent, he suffers for the sins of others. This hardly describes the Jewish nation, which went into exile because of its sinful ways. (2 Kings 21:11-15; Jeremiah 25:8-11) Others claimed that the Servant represented the pious elite in Israel and that these suffered in behalf of sinful Israelites. However, during times of affliction in Israel, no one specific group suffered for another.

    Before the advent of Christianity and to some extent during the early centuries of the Common Era, a few Jewish scholars did apply this prophecy to the Messiah. That this is the correct application is seen in the Christian Greek Scriptures. The book of Acts reports that when the Ethiopian eunuch said that he did not know the identity of the Servant of Isaiah’s prophecy, Philip “declared to him the good news about Jesus.” (Acts 8:26-40; Isaiah 53:7, 8) Other Bible books likewise identify Jesus Christ as the Messianic Servant of Isaiah’s prophecy. As we discuss this prophecy, we will see the undeniable parallels between the one whom Jehovah calls “my servant” and Jesus of Nazareth.

    The prophecy begins by describing the ultimate success of the Messiah in carrying out the divine will. The word “servant” indicates that he will submit to God’s will, as a servant does to that of his master. In so doing, he “will act with insight.” Insight is the ability to see into a situation. To act with insight is to act discreetly. Regarding the Hebrew verb here used, one reference work says: “At its heart is the thought of prudent and wise dealing. He who deals wisely will obtain success.” That the Messiah will indeed be successful is seen in that the prophecy says he will “be elevated and exalted very much.”

    Jesus did “act with insight,” showing understanding of the Bible prophecies that applied to him and being guided by them to do the will of his Father. (John 17:4; 19:30) With what result? Following Jesus’ resurrection and ascension to heaven, “God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name.” (Philippians 2:9; Acts 2:34-36)

  • 1 decade ago

    Why of course Jebus was crucified, haven't you read the story book, I mean, do you even go to Mosk? You should read the story book, it sais a guy called Jebus was put on a piece of wood, fell asleep and then awoke again only to find he was late for his meeting with God. So anyway, Jebus jumps off the cross, slips on his robe, and sandals which two female nuns gave to him, his director/manager comes along dappers him up, brushes his hair, and hands him his best brief case, made of leather. So anyway, Jebus shouts "Allahcazam baby!" And some cloud stairs come floating from the heavens. "Cya later ladies!" He bellows back, turning towards the heavens. After 4 hours of climbing the light stairs, he reaches some iron gates, a crow flutters off at the presence of Jebus. There comes a deep bellow from behind a large chair. "Jebus, my son, so good to see you've made it." Jebus cowers behind his brief case, "Oh, em geee, that chairs like, speaking!"

    Then God pops up from behind the chair, and slips on his majestic shoes. "No, no son, I was just.............um......flossing." God bares an awkward look, looking left to right, before smiling, trying to divert Jebus' thoughts and emphasise himself. "Anyway....um....so like......I'm gonna take a break for like 2,000,000 years and you son, can have my powers." And that's the Jebus story. Blessings, from Jebus.

  • 1 decade ago

    This is the presentation of Messiah, the next verse is His sufferings.

  • 1 decade ago

    Jesus was lifted up on a Holy Cross!

    There is no record outside of the Bible stories that Jesus Christ ever existed or that the Romans ever crucified anybody in Jerusalem! Our body is too heavy and cumbersome to hang so peaceably nailed by the hands to any cross even a convenient foot rest! The Romans were known to impale their victims driving a pole into their rectum and making them stand up into the air WITHOUT ANY FOOT REST. The pole would quickly pierce the heart or lung killing the victim without the need of any specialized Holy Cross manufacturing facility! The JWs came up with the funny idea that Jesus Christ was nailed with ONLY ONE NAIL on a straight up pole with his hands above his head! In impalement, the thicker the pole driven up the anus the longer it took for the victim to die. In the Jesus Crucifixion “story” he died rather quickly and painlessly hardly shedding any blood (Mark 15:44)! Instead of suffering pain for the “sin of Eve” while nailed to the Holy Cross Jesus was holding a long heated religious chat with the 2 thieves hanging nailed to the other crosses. He is also pictured chatting with everybody else attending his Holy Crucifixion. He was too distracted and didn’t seem to know why he was getting crucified! HE COMPLAINED at his “Father God in Heaven” for having forsaken him! Christians claim that crucifixion is the MOST PAINFUL form of death that God the Father could have possibly dreamed up for his “ONLY BEGOTTEN SON JESUS CHRIST.” God wanted to get even with Eve for her daring interest in plain knowledge of good and evil. Eve was quite a girl! She got to live almost 1,000 Bible years! The Bible writers’ original idea was for humankind to depend EXCLUSIVELY on the Clergy on any “good or evil” issue! This is why TRUE Christians hate secular science! Can you imagine what America would be like with Pat Robertson as president? He claims that any science NOT BASED ON THE BIBLE is a Communist plot to hurt America! Pat has millions of Americans supporting him with a lot of money!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WynH9nJuSuk&NR=1

    Christians MUST IGNORE that any functional Holy Cross needs to be very strongly structured and firmly planted into the ground taking into account gravitational forces, level and plumb, and so on which is something that YOU DON’T GET BY JUST DIGGING A HOLE IN THE GROUND! It has to hold a step-ladder so the Roman soldiers can do the final trimmings on the victim’s body. In the case of Jesus Christ Christians know that it would have been very embarrassing for God the Father up “IN HEAVEN” to watch a sloppy form of salvation on a Holy Cross that wouldn’t hold anybody nailed to it without any help from Heaven!

    In 324 AD, Saint Helen is on Church record to have found THE HOLY CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST and the crosses of the 2 thieves, in a garbage dump near the alleged site of the Holy Crucifixion just outside of Jerusalem. After over 300 years the wooden crosses showed no sign of decomposition! That’s a MIRACLE in itself! Saint Helen found only 3 (three) crosses in all Israel!

    http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf203.iv.viii.i....

    Most Cathedrals in Europe today still sport a 2,000 year old chunk of wood taken from God the Son Jesus Christ’s Holy Cross!

    “Before the year 350, St. Cyril of Jerusalem three times over informs us that the fragments of the wood of the Cross found by St. Helen had been distributed piecemeal and had filled the whole world (Cat., iv, 10; x, 19; xiii, 4)” …PRAISE THE LORD!

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12734a.htm

    The Holy Cross idea comes from this ONLY story in the Jewish Bible!

    Deuteronomy 21:23 (KJV) His body* (*the body of any convicted criminal) shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; for HE THAT IS HANGED* (*by the neck from a tree branch NOT FROM A ROMAN HOLY CROSS) IS ACCURSED OF GOD…

    This is the ONLY “PROPHECY” in the whole Jewish Bible about any “hanging” of a CRIMINAL that “spiritually speaking” the Early Church Fathers and the preachers today still relate to the Jesus crucifixion story! The Early Church Fathers idea of a Roman Holy Cross symbol is to show the prospective “believers” the DYING “Savior” welcoming “sinners” into his outstretched arms. Christianity is the only religion requiring the DEATH of a savior to save anybody from getting tormented in “Hell” for ever and ever. In real life any savior needs to be alive all along while saving anybody. Most of the time the person in peril of his/her life may be reluctant to be saved, or in panic of dying making their rescue difficult. A real SAVIOR would risk his/her life to save their fellow human being no matter what. Jesus Christ is a fair weather savior. The alleged “lost” person needs to be of a sound mind and have enough “faith” of the right brand that the “savior” will do the trick, otherwise they are still lost and on their way to the Bible Hell!

    1 Peter 1:19-20 (KJV) But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot* (*but full of Roman soldiers’ spit!): who verily* (*NO BULL CRAP!) was foreordained BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD* (*only some sarcastic John 3:16 Bible writers would dream up a “salvation” like this to promote their immoral business! “God” created this humongous universe ONLY to have his “only begotten Son Jesus Christ” slaughtered on a Holy Cross on this tiny microscopic speck of dust that we call the Earth located at the edge of the Milky Way which is one of the most insignificant galaxies in our universe. No wonder Saint Paul hates science and forbids Christians from participating in secular science projects!)

    In the Bible stories God is not much different from the Gods in many primitive religions. He is a God that can only be appeased with some sort of a human or animal sacrifice. The “virgin girl” sacrificed in Judges 11 never became too popular among the Jews or Christians! Nothing tops the sacrifice of a “SON OF GOD” to make people feel in peace with God and forgiven for the daring “original sin” of Eve in her quest for knowledge. According to the Bible writers people go to “Hell” because of Eve! The top Christian dogma has it that the whole human race will pay in “Hell” for the “sin” of “Eve!” About 70 years after the alleged death of Jesus, some Early Church Father wrote this story for the Bible.

    Hebrews 10:7 (KJV) Then said I* (*Jesus Christ!), Lo, I come in the volume of the book it is written of me* (*no Bull Crap!), to do thy will, O God* (*If he ever existed Jesus was a delusional suicidal maniac believing that his FATHER GOD created this humongous universe his to have him nailed to a Holy Cross!)

    The NT Bible writers have their character Jesus following the script in their BOOKS so everything that Jesus did was to make sure that any possible “prophecy” or statement by the previous Bible writers about anybody doing anything in their stories can be used to identify “Jesus” (Mat 4:14).

    Not all Preachers do any serious study on how Christianity was put together! They all use the same Church brand script, or they would lose their source of income and social benefits…if they declined to accept any USA SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME available to the Clergy and Preachers. I dropped out of Christianity and religion in general because I couldn’t be that dishonest any more.

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