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Scott H asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 1 decade ago

Are the "poor" in the USA really poor? Or is it just a class warfare thing?

Our politicians and pundits seems to take for granted that many Americans are living in poverty. Do you think we might be defining "poverty" a little strangely? I mean. . how can you be impoverished if you are driving a car, smoking a cigarette and talking on a cell phone?

Here are some stats I found on-line

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"The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports:

• Fortysix percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a threebedroom house with oneandahalf baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.

• Seventysix percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

• Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than twothirds have more than two rooms per person.

• The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)

• Nearly threequarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars.

• Ninetyseven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.

• Seventyeight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.

• Seventythree percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a third have an automatic dishwasher."

SOURCES:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/consumption/

http://www.wisebread.com/our-high-high-standard-of...

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2004/01/u...

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Do you think that starving kids in undeveloped countries think these American's are poor? How spoiled are we anyway?

Update:

@MD -- The Heritage article pulled its information from official government sources (see my other source). It doesn't matter what their "mission" is so long as their facts are straight. Also, in my opinion "relative poverty" is ridiculous. That model in itself is nothing more than a way to vilify the rich. Absolute poverty is the only measure that counts. My obligation to my fellow man is that I not let him starve or go without shelter. In other words if he isn't dying of his poverty, I have no obligation to him above basic subsistence. In America, he has a choice to climb above out of his humble situation. I don't owe him a car or Internet service or a cell phone or a cigarette or a hand full of change. And I darn sure don't think the government should be taking my money in order to spread my wealth to him so that the playing field is more level. That amounts to me keeping less of the money I actually worked for. If he wants more, he can work for it just like I do.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    "poor" in less developed countries takes on a whole new definition. i drive by a vagabond everyday who has a wardrobe, 2 dogs, and a cell phone... he has a sign saying he is broke and homeless, ha

  • 1 decade ago

    Poverty is based on the standard of living for the country. Every country has a standard of living. In America we have a higher standard of living. Thus, more is required not to live below the poverty line.

    In Mexico i would be considered rich, however i do not live in Mexico so that does not matter does it? Why because I pay $6 for a pack of cigarettes and Mexicans pay $10 for a carton of the same brand.

    I may pay $3 for a gallon of gas and in Mexico they may $0.60.

    Poverty is what poverty is, not living up the standards of living of the majority of people in that country.

  • 5 years ago

    initially, many times, many homeless have a severe drug or alcohol situation. 2d, there are a number of lazy liberals who choose to return to the welfare state we had in the 1900s the place human beings have been as quickly as paid by using the government to do no longer something (the infamous occasion is the construction in NYC that became to be painted six circumstances a three hundred and sixty 5 days. If the folk employed to try this activity quite did it, the partitions could be ft thick) As a conservative, i choose fairness for all. i think of it quite is ridiculous that as a center type american I pay greater in taxes on my average wealth than Mitt Romney. i do no longer attack anybody, yet I do help the yankee suitable to one's wealth.

  • MD
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    There is *relative* poverty and there is *absolute* poverty. In the relative model the lines are shifting, being based on median income and CPI. Back in 2004, when your "Hertiage Foundation" ("whose mission is to formulate and promote conservative public policies") published the article 46% owned their homes - as we all saw come 2008 they afford them. In the "Wisebread" article it points out that household income *rose* (also a 2004 stat) while incomes dropped since more people were living in the same household. (Interesting to me since that was the year my daughter moved back in with us.) The number of relative poor continue to climb as the middle class is swallowed into their numbers.

    I don't think that rewriting the definition of poor is going to make that problem go away.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    "I mean. . how can you be impoverished if you are driving a car, smoking a cigarette and talking on a cell phone? "

    -Actually, in all honesty, I had a guy ask me for money when i was walking home, he was smoking a cig and carrying a phone. I told him to quit smoking and save near 10$ a day. It's his choice to smoke, if he has no money because of that, f*ck him

    Another guy asked me for change in wendy's, I told him I didn't have any, the bastard had the audacity to ask me to check. Then he asked if I paid by card, as if that was any of his business, I told him it was none of his business and no, I don't have any change and I wouldn't give you any if I did after you demanded like you did.

  • 1 decade ago

    Ok, so you've established that the "poor" in a nation that has the largest GDP in the world doesn't have it as bad as the poor in other nations... what a shocking revelation.

    No, I don't think that everyone who uses the word "poor" is practicing some kind of deceptive method of class warfare. There has been a real decline in living standards of working Americans over the last thirty years.

  • 1 decade ago

    Poor is a contextual word. Poverty in America is, of course, defined by different standards than in a third-world country.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Americans can be rated higher if they would Simply stand up for themselves and each other in the political Arena.

    Do you really want to change America for the better. By the People for the People of These United States of America? Do you feel those few Politicians which truly run America are really for the People of America.

    Really? Now here is your chance to be involved, get involved send to everyone. Make a stand, make a difference make America by the People for the People.

    See www.tpctpv.com not just a game show a reality where America will be heard, seen, and changed the world over. Quit talking, and complaining about America do something about it. Go to www.tpctpv.com now, and be the difference.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    By UN standards, America has no poor people, neither does Canada.

    Poor is a temporary state in this country. That may change if the Congress doesn't

    concentrate on jobs.

  • ?
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    No, there are really poor people. They are just poor because they buy all that crap instead of investing their way out of poverty. It starts with the hedonistic mentality in school that children have the right to do whatever they want.

    Some people just didn't hear the word "no" enough as kids, and grew into adults who don't know how to say "no."

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