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Does "dead" mean dead?

Ephesians 2:1 - we were dead in our trespasses and sins

Colossians 2:13 - you...were dead in your trespasses

Can dead people make moral choices? Can dead people understand and accept God's offer of salvation?

Update:

GREGORIOUSITY: You can't die if you're already dead, so scriptures about our "old man" dying, and scriptures about our old man already being dead, must be talking about two different things.

Update 2:

robert p: How about telling me what you believe it means, instead of just pasting Bible verses?

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  • 1 decade ago
    Favorite Answer

    Yes , dead is dead

    Without grace we are dead in sin and not just sick spiritually

    We need grace to be born again ( as in baptismal regeneration)

    If we die in the state of mortal sin, we are ever dead spiritually

    No grace, no life

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    After 30 years of research, I now

    possess the Order of Harmonic

    Antipodal Cubic Divinity Life -

    too large for physical form, but

    Binary Spirit of the masculinity

    Sun & feminity Earth Antipodes.

    ONEism is demonic Death Math.

    I have so much to teach you, but

    you ignore me you evil asses.

    You will recognize 4 corner Days

    or incur Easter Island Ending.

    Never a Genius knew Math

    to achieve my Cubic Wisdom.

    Cubic thought Reigns as the

    Highest Intelligence possible

    on the planet Earth. One 96

    hour rotating Cube within a

    single rotation of Earth - is a

    SuperNatural Transcendence.

    Bible and Science falsify 1

    corner day for the Cubic 4

    corner Days rotating daily.

  • 1 decade ago

    Simple answers are always the best: After you die you dead. You don't have to be saved from anything.

  • ?
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    In order to live in the spirit you have to die to the flesh.

    I hope that you can understand that,

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    When the person met their death, then that's the time when they really woke from their sleep. (Imam Ali r.a)

  • 1 decade ago

    The death of the free will.

  • Mythos
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    You can't be serious.

  • 1 decade ago

    How about finishing?

    Colossians 2

    1For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh;

    2That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

    3In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

    4And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.

    5For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

    6As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

    7Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

    8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

    11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

    12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

    13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

    15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

    Ephesians 2

    1And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

    2Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

    3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

    4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

    5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

    6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

    7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

    8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

    11Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

    12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

    13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

    14For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

    15Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

    16And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

    17And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

    John 3:15-21 (King James Version)

    15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

    16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

    18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

    20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

    21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

    Source(s): Romans Proverbs James
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