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Why do other Atheists insist they aren't afraid of death?

1) If I put you into a situation where your life was imminently threatened, I guarantee you will experience a fear-response. If you've ever been in a situation of danger and have felt fear, it's because you're afraid of death. The only way this wouldn't work is if you were severely mentally or emotionally damaged or conditioned.

It's just how it is, people. We're biologically programmed to behave this way. Telling me you don't experience fear in the face of death is like saying you don't experience pain when you stub your toe

2) So why do you say something that's not true at all?

i) Do you say this as some preemptive defense against theists who try to use fear to control you?

ii) Are you remarking on merely the concept of death? Much in the same way I'm not averse to the concept of torture, but I am averse to actually being tortured.

iii) Something else?

Update:

Liking life is the flip side of fearing death. I don't subscribe to a purely dualistic interpretation of emotion, so maybe that's our difference. If you like life, it's just a different form of fearing death.

I would argue fearing the pain associated with death IS the same thing as fearing death. Because why do you fear the pain? Biological drives to remain intact, whole, ALIVE.

@Anonnie mouse: exactly. We're all afraid of dying. We just don't spend every day obsessing over it. I'm afraid of being hit by a car. It doesn't mean I don't cross the street. It's just a normal healthy fear that we should have because we like living and don't want to die.

@please: same thing. Fear of losing life = fear of dying. There is no difference. I'm not asking about the after-life, I am asking about death. The end of your personal existence.

@God: fight-flight. Why fight or flee if you're not afraid of death/prefer life? Like I said, I see those as the same thing (western society does way too m

Update 2:

@lain... er something: you bring up an important point. I've had enough input for now. I'll think about these things.

Right now, I'm considering what emotion really means... it seems I'm arguing from an automated response system type of idea whereas others are talking about their self-aware cognitions of their own emotions (which is ambiguous sometimes).

Anyway, thanks all who answered. I'm a psych major so I take these ideas seriously. I will consider them all.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    1) actually i have been i one and nope your guarantee falls flat

    2) it is true

    II) no, i do not fear my own death

    III) nope.

  • Fear of death is a natural human reaction, to suppress it is un-natural as it's there for a reason as part of the survival instinct.

    I've experienced near-death experiences many times in my life, but that does not mean I do not have a healthy respect for the fragile elements that make human life possible on this peculiar planet.

    I know what to expect and I do hold a visceral, (Ufck!) response each time I've avoided a near-death event in my life.

    I'm going to assume that I do not match the description you have chosen to articulate as a means of dissecting the human response to a life-threatening situation that provokes a fight or flight response.

    Accepting a single human reality does not define who I am or who other people who are capable of thinking similar realities of the human experience, I am much more than just a human, (self-reinforcing) mental construct denier.

    Source(s): Juxtaposition
  • 1 decade ago

    You fear pain because it's painful, obviously. All the situations you mention are situations which result in pain.

    I have some fear of dying, which means the part of getting to death. I DO NOT fear death, period. To be perfectly blunt, I tried to commit suicide once. What I found is that it's not so easy getting to the point of being dead as you'd like for it to be if that's where you want to get. That's why I wouldn't do it again; not because I fear death, but because getting there involves pain and sometimes involves pain that lasts a long time. My mother died of cancer. I took care of her for a year while she was dying. Long before she got to the end, she WANTED TO DIE TO END THE PAIN.

    Believe what you want but it's perfectly possible for someone not to fear being dead but to fear what may precede it.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Because I'm not afraid of death.

    1) this "fear response" is a biological function, not a function of thought or reason. The fear response occurs whenever you're threatened, even if "death" is not a possibility. So it's not a "fear of death."

    2) I didn't -- I'm not afraid of death. I don't *want* to die, and when I do die I don't want it to be long, drawn-out, and painful...but I'm not afraid of it.

    i) no, it's an honest statement.

    ii) no, I'm not afraid of death.

    iii) no, I'm not afraid of death.

    You do realize that we're not "slaves" to our biological instincts, don't you? When I see a sexually attractive woman, I get physically aroused -- that's a biological response. That doesn't mean I MUST grab her and have sex with her, I can use my reasoning abilities to understand the biological response and consciously decide what my thoughts and actions will be. Same goes with the "fear" response -- I'm not a slave to it.

    Peace.

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  • 1 decade ago

    When you get to the point where your body is not working properly and you're in constant pain, death seems like a welcome reprieve. When you're 20 you fear death a lot more than you do when you're 90. I'm old enough that I've seen cases when death seemed like the best alternative. Sometimes it's just plain welcome.

    Having a gun shoved in your face is hardly the only way one might face death. Sometimes you're elderly, lying in a nursing home bed unable to control your bowels, unable to move on your own and just wishing your suffering would end. Maybe you're a soldier who intentionally courted death trying to save the rest of your unit. Maybe you're a parent who jumped in front of a moving car to push your child out of the way. It's not as black and white as you want to think.

  • 1 decade ago

    1) There is a difference between not fearing to be dead and not fighting to live. Because I don't fear being dead doesn't mean I wouldn't fight to live, that is preferable...

    Which is why I say I don't fear death, only the method...

    2) I never did...

    i) Nope

    ii) See above...

    iii) Nope

    IMHO

  • 1 decade ago

    1) Fearing the pain associated with death does not mean they fear death.

    2) They're not.

    i) No, since I don't want to die.

    ii) That depends on the person really.

    iii) Generalizing is never a wise idea.

  • 1 decade ago

    A lack of conscious fear regarding the end of ones life and a desire to continue to live are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

    I think it is sort of like your torture analogy-- I do not live every moment of my life in abject fear of being tortured, but that doesn't mean I would want to be tortured. Since death (unlike torture) is ultimately unavoidable, I feel it would be counterproductive to wake each day in fear of my eventual demise. Instead, I try to have the best life I can and save the fear of death for when it presents itself.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I don't think you have understood the subject.

    When someone asks "Are you afraid of death" they DON'T mean "Do you piss your pants if you see a rampant bull storming straight at you" or "Do you shriek like a little girl when you bungee-jump"?

    That's not 'fear of death', that's the animalistic panic response which all humans have.

    They mean, "Are you afraid of being dead", as in, "do you worry about not existing anymore" which is a subject people can calmly and dispassionately discuss.

  • 1) Your guarantee is false. You cannot claim this true at all. You also cannot say that emotionally damaged thing without showing your own ignorance by generalizing.

    2) Peloristic Atheist does not fear death. All who do are pathetic.

    All other responses to give should be obvious to you.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I like living. I have a lot more of it I want to do. I don't want to lose that. That's not the same as fearing being 'dead.' Which as I mentioned before is silly, because death is nonexistence. There would be no me to fear anything.

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