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Im concerned 75hp will not be enough?
In my stable now I have a CBR1100XX, a KZ1100 and a XL500R.
Im looking to get something that handles really really well and is really user friendly, because I want to develop really good cornering technique. I dont think I want a 600cc racerep, because of the peaky nature of their powerplants, and I dont want a literbike because I want the experiance to be dominated by cornering not throttle control. I was thinking I want a twin like a Ducati 900SS SV650 or maybe even a Hyosung GT650R. Im just afraid that I will find them underpowered. But on the other hand, the XL has what, 40hp? I think it is really fun. So IDK
Im going to look at a tastefully modded early SV650S later today, but any input would be appreciated.
Basically, will the SV650etc be good enough, or should I step up to A TL1000R RC51 etc?
If you have ridden/owned a early 900SS, SV650 or Hyosung a comparison would be appreciated, or any recommendations for other bikes too. Also Im not too concerned about fairings. A naked SV or Hyosung, maybe even a Supermotard would not go against my taste.
Im 5'10" 200lbs, and in good physical condition.
Thankyou for the thoughtful responses!
Cant even come close to a 1098, a RC51 would be a big stretch honestly.
I dont need a "do it all" bike, I already have the KZ and XX for transportation. I will be on the streets almost entirely as there are no tracks close to me, but I live in a rural area. This bike will be for polishing cornering skills and developing mad pace on desolate curvy roads. Ive heard the RC51s are heavy and slow steering. Is this true?
I like the point about the weight of the Supermotard. Also the wheeliness. The CBR though powerful, isnt the best for wheelies. Maybe I could hone that (and stoppies, and oversteering) also.
@ John, traffic wont be an issue with how I intend to ride this bike. Or hiway liveability either. Or the pull over 100mph. I have other bikes for all that. This will be more of a toy bike. When I say tastefully modded, it has a lowerfairing, its white with little blue accents and decals, it has SS brake lines, and a muffler.
So I went to go check out the SV. The key was frozen in the ignition and wouldnt turn do to the sudden cold! I think my search will be delayed until it warms up.
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- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
When I go to racing school, I have a choice of a 600cc super-sport or an SV650. I always choose the SV because I don't like the power delivery of the GSXRs and R6s. The SV650 is a little slower on the straights, but not by much. If I get a REALLY good drive off the tight turn onto the front straight, I can sometimes pass the guy in front going into turn 1. This is because the front straight is only about 1,000ft, and I can pull harder out of that final turn without losing traction than on an inline four, so I pass the other rider. Do you really think that you need more performance than that on the street?
Source(s): Riding for 36 years. Motorcycle instructor. Own 6 bikes. - ?Lv 71 decade ago
I have two 02 RC51's and I have ridden the first gen naked SV650. You cannot compare the two bikes. They're in a completely different world apart. I don't know what your intended purpose is so I will just assume that it's for street riding. The SV650 would be fine in traffic situations and is ideal compared to an RC51. A naked SV650 stays cooler in traffic situations compared to an RC51 with where the RC's radiators are located, + don't forget the fairings on it. The SV is more comfortable to ride than an RC.
If I had a total of two bikes, one RC51 and one SV650, in my garage and my wife told me to get rid of one, the SV would be on craigslist in a heartbeat.
I have always told people including my 'new rider' brother that the SV is basically a 'do it all' bike and there's nothing wrong with it. It really comes down to what you want and need.
I won't say that my RC's are heavy stearing, but i will say that they're not light in weight as an SV. The beast handles pretty well and even with stock suspension, it's good enough for my needs on curvy back roads. i know i can have fun on the same roads with an SV, but it wouldn't be the same. The RC just has a very unique personality of it's own, which is why i bought a 2nd one (a good deal helps a lot though).
XX - I rode one once and wasn't crazy about the linked braking though i'm sure it's a good sportbike for some nice distance riding.
KZ - oh how i do so miss my 81 KZ750 (split seats). :(
Personally, I don't recommend the Hyosung for many reasons. If you 'have to', then okay buy it.
in one hand - RC51. in the other - TL1000R. very easy decision to make there.
Ducati? - I could never get myself to buy one of these based on cost:fun ratio and maintenance intervals + cost for parts.
I don't think that my RC steers slow at all, but we are talking about a bike that's carrying a little more weight than the others. The advantage of the Vtwin is that the cylinders are front to back which is like having the weight thinly distributed in the direction you're moving versus having to weight distributed side to side, ...if all that makes sense.
I don't see how you could be dissapointed with the RC. it's growls, it's responsive, it has great feedback when running at a good pace. lots of torque, i could go on and on. i do hate the side radiators though, but as long as you're moving, no problems.
- Timothy D.Lv 41 decade ago
I went from big, heavy bikes to a middleweight (ZX-11 & ST-1100 to Triumph Sprint ST). I don't think I will be going back. I really learned to ride well on the ST, and I really like the way it handles.
70 HP can be a lot fo fun becuase you can really "wring" the bike out. I know you know what I mean with the Blackbird and the short-shifting all the time. Shifting into 3rd at 120 MPH was a lot of fun on the ZX-11, but I rarely was able to "give it all it ws worth." The SV will be a fun in this way.
- A1990Lv 51 decade ago
One word - supermoto. A 450cc racing supermoto only has about 55bhp, but wheelies in every gear.
On twisty roads with <60mph bends, a supermoto will thrash a sports bike. A YZ450F supermoto weighs around 240lbs wet, compared to over 400lbs for an R6.
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- KairuSS/RSLv 61 decade ago
Never ridden any of them, but it may help to look at your tube videos of people riding them to try to get a feel for the speed. In my opinion you should get the ducati 1098, but that's just because I'm a sport bike & ducati fan. Those things are pricey.