I have a question about Jehovah's day?

Greetings,

The presence of Christ is not the same as Jehovah’s Day. At 2Thes.4:15-8 Paul mentioned Christ’s presence. Then he referred to “Jehovah’s day” at 2Thes.2:1-3 where it shows that Jehovah’s days is the FINAL Day of Destruction which will conclude the Last Days. This is shown in Christ’s prophecy concerning “the conclusion of the system of things.” First, he mentioned the many facets of the sign marking his presence and the then he said that time would culminate with the Great Tribulation and the destruction at “the end” (Mt.24:14-22,29-31,36,46).

That is why both Paul and Peter closely associated Christ’s presence with Jehovah’s Day (2Pet 3:10-13).

Since Jehovah’s Day is actually the Great Tribulation and its culminating battle Armageddon we have no idea as to when that day of destruction will come. Although, as 2Thes.2:4,5 point out true Christians will not be caught by surprise because they will have identified that they are living during Christ’s presence and have seen the signs of the last days (Mt.24:3ff; 2Tim.3:1-5).

The following is summarized from the “Insight to the Scriptures” vol.1 pp. 594-595 Day of Jehovah:

A special period of time when Jehovah actively executes divine judgment against the wicked and provides salvation and deliverance for the righteous (Am 5:18-20; Isa 13:9; Zep 1:15; Eze 7:19; Zep 1:14,18; Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2).

The term “the day of Jehovah” referred to different times of destructive judgment by God. On was the destruction of the unfaithful nation of Israel 607 B.C.E. (Isa 2:11-17; Eze 13:5; Zep 1:4-8). Another was when God brought destruction on the unrighteous nations who fought against His people such as Edom, Babylon, and Egypt (Oba1:1,15; Isa 13:1,6; Jer 46:1,2,10). Another “day of Jehovah” came in 70 C.E. when Jehovah executed divine judgment upon the Jewish nation that had rejected the Messiah (Mal 4:5, 6; Mt 11:12-14; Mr 9:11-13; Ac 2:16-21).

However, these prior “Days of Jehovah” were prophetic types of the final “day of Jehovah.” This would be against ALL wicked nations and people. The apostle Paul, under inspiration, associated the coming “day of Jehovah” with the presence of Christ. (2Th 2:1, 2) And Peter spoke of it in connection with the establishment of ‘new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness is to dwell.’—2Pe 3:10-13.

Insight vol.2 p. 679 Presence: “Since Jehovah God acts by and through his Son and appointed King, Christ Jesus (Joh 3:35; compare 1Co 15:23, 24), it follows that there is a relationship between this promised “presence” of Jehovah and the “presence” of Christ Jesus. Logically, those who scoff at the proclamation of the one will scoff at the proclamation of the other. Again the attitude of the people prior to the Deluge is used as a corresponding example.—2Pe 3:5-7; compare Mt 24:37-39.”

Yours,

BAR-ANERGES

In the Bible, the term "Jehovah's Day" refers to several judgment periods, past and future.

Actually, the coming "Jehovah's Day," the time of universal judgment, is the end stage of the parousia or Presence. It is not the first part of the presence of Christ, it is the terminal point of that period, also called the erchomai, the "coming" for judgment.

We know when the Parousia began, but the Bible says that we do not know when the final point of that period, Jehovah's Day of judgment, will begin. When he was on earth, not even Jesus knew. (Mark 13:32)

Nor do we know yet.

That is why we must continue to "keep on the watch." (Mark13:37)

Please see the Insight book, under "Day of Jehovah," and the publication, "Live With Jehovah's Day in Mind."

See also, the articles "What Jehovah’s Day Will Reveal," in The Watchtower of July 15, 2010, and "Are You Ready for Jehovah’s Day?" in The Watchtower of December 15, 2007,

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Nobody knows when Jehovah's day start

(Matthew 24: 36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.  . .

Information about Jesus presence:

Matt. 24:37-39: “Just as the days of Noah were, so the presence [“coming,” RS, TEV; “presence,” Yg, Ro, ED; Greek, pa·rou·si′a] of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.” (The events of “the days of Noah” that are described here took place over a period of many years. Jesus compared his presence with what occurred back then.)

At Matthew 24:37 the Greek word pa·rou·si′a is used. Literally it means a “being alongside.” Liddell and Scott’s Greek-English Lexicon (Oxford, 1968) gives “presence, of persons,” as its first definition of pa·rou·si′a

The sense of the word is clearly indicated at Philippians 2:12, where Paul contrasts his presence (pa·rou·si′a) with his absence (a·pou·si′a). On the other hand, in Matthew 24:30, which tells of the “Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory” as Jehovah’s executioner at the war of Armageddon, the Greek word er·kho′me·non is used. Some translators use ‘coming’ for both Greek words, but those that are more careful convey the difference between the two.

Judgment Day—What Is It?

HOW do you picture Judgment Day? Many think that one by one, billions of souls will be brought before the throne of God. There, judgment will be passed upon each individual. Some will be rewarded with heavenly bliss, and others will be condemned to eternal torment. However, the Bible paints quite a different picture of this period of time. God’s Word portrays it, not as a terrifying time, but as a time of hope and restoration.

At Revelation 20:11, 12, we read the apostle John’s description of Judgment Day: “I saw a great white throne and the one seated on it. From before him the earth and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. But another scroll was opened; it is the scroll of life. And the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds.” Who is the Judge described here?

Jehovah God is the ultimate Judge of mankind. However, he delegates the actual work of judging. According to Acts 17:31, the apostle Paul said that God “has set a day in which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed.” This appointed Judge is the resurrected Jesus Christ. (John 5:22) When, though, does Judgment Day begin? How long does it last?

The book of Revelation shows that Judgment Day begins after the war of Armageddon, when Satan’s system on earth will be destroyed.* (Revelation 16:14, 16; 19:19–20:3) After Armageddon, Satan and his demons will be imprisoned in an abyss for a thousand years. During that time, the 144,000 heavenly joint heirs will be judges and will rule “as kings with the Christ for a thousand years.” (Revelation 14:1-3; 20:1-4; Romans 8:17) Judgment Day is not some hurried event lasting a mere 24 hours. It lasts a thousand years.

During that thousand-year period, Jesus Christ will “judge the living and the dead.” (2 Timothy 4:1) “The living” will be the “great crowd” that survives Armageddon. (Revelation 7:9-17) The apostle John also saw “the dead . . . standing before the throne” of judgment. As Jesus promised, “those in the memorial tombs will hear [Christ’s] voice and come out” by means of a resurrection. (John 5:28, 29; Acts 24:15) But on what basis will all be judged?

According to the apostle John’s vision, “scrolls were opened,” and “the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds.” Are these scrolls the record of people’s past deeds? No, the judgment will not focus on what people did before they died. How do we know that? The Bible says: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.” (Romans 6:7) Those resurrected thus come to life with a clean slate, so to speak. The scrolls must therefore represent God’s further requirements. To live forever, both Armageddon survivors and resurrected ones will have to obey God’s commandments, including whatever new requirements Jehovah might reveal during the thousand years. Thus, individuals will be judged on the basis of what they do during Judgment Day.

Judgment Day will give billions of people their first opportunity to learn about God’s will and to conform to it. This means that a large-scale educational work will take place. Indeed, “righteousness is what the inhabitants of the productive land will certainly learn.” (Isaiah 26:9) However, not all will be willing to conform to God’s will. Isaiah 26:10 says: “Though the wicked one should be shown favor, he simply will not learn righteousness. In the land of straightforwardness he will act unjustly and will not see the eminence of Jehovah.” These wicked ones will be put to death permanently during Judgment Day.—Isaiah 65:20.

By the end of Judgment Day, surviving humans will have “come to life” fully as perfect humans. (Revelation 20:5) Judgment Day will thus see the restoration of mankind to its original perfect state. (1 Corinthians 15:24-28) Then a final test will take place. Satan will be released from his imprisonment and allowed to try to mislead mankind one last time. (Revelation 20:3, 7-10) Those who resist him will enjoy the complete fulfillment of the Bible’s promise: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.” (Psalm 37:29) Yes, Judgment Day will be a blessing to all faithful mankind!

The special period of time, not 24 hours, when Jehovah actively manifests himself against his enemies and in behalf of his people. With divine judgment executed against the wicked, Jehovah comes off victorious over his opposers during this “day.” It is also a time of salvation and deliverance for the righteous, the day in which Jehovah himself is highly exalted as the Supreme One. Thus, in a double way it is uniquely and exclusively Jehovah’s great day.

This day is detailed in the Scriptures as a time of battle, a great and fear-inspiring day of darkness and burning anger, a day of fury, distress, anguish, desolation, and alarm. “What, then, will the day of Jehovah mean to you people?” God asked wayward Israel by the mouth of his prophet Amos. This: “It will be darkness, and no light, just as when a man flees because of the lion, and the bear actually meets him; and as when he went into the house and supported his hand against the wall, and the serpent bit him.” (Am 5:18-20) Isaiah was told: “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with burning anger.” (Isa 13:9) “That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and of anguish, a day of storm and of desolation, a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick gloom.” (Zep 1:15) During such a time of trouble, one’s money is absolutely worthless. “Into the streets they will throw their very silver . . . Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah’s fury.”—Eze 7:19; Zep 1:18.

A sense of urgency is attached to the day of Jehovah by the prophets, who repeatedly warned of its nearness. “The great day of Jehovah is near. It is near, and there is a hurrying of it very much.” (Zep 1:14) “Alas for the day; because the day of Jehovah is near.” “Let all the inhabitants of the land get agitated; for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!”—Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2.

You must be using the New World mis-translation.

The next event on the prophetic calendar is the rapture, then the seven year tribulation, then the second coming, then the Millenium, then the judgment.

The word 'rapture' means 'to be caught up', or'snatched away'. Jesus will approach the earth and call all the Christians to come up to Him. He will not 'touch down' on earth at this time. We will spend the seven year tribulation that will come upon the earth with Jesus in heaven. Born again Christians will not go through the Great Tribulation.

The word "rapture" is found in the Bible, if you have the Latin Vulgate produced by Jerome in the early 400s. The Vulgate was the main Bible of the medieval Western Church until the Reformation. It continues to this day as the primary Latin translation of the Roman Catholic Church. Yet, as we shall see later, it was Protestants who introduced the word "rapture" into the English language from the Latin raeptius. It was Jerome�s Vulgate that translated the original Greek verb harpaz� used by Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, which is usually translated into English with the phrase "caught up." The leading Greek Lexicon says that harpaz� means "snatch, seize, i.e., take suddenly and vehemently." This is the same meaning of the Latin word rapio "to seize, snatch, tear away." It should not be surprising to anyone, that an English word was developed from the Latin which we use today known as "rapture."While it is technically true that the word rapture does not appear in the English Bible, it does, nevertheless, appear in the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible. Certainly the notion of a rapture appears many times in the Bible. Translators of the Bible into English could have been justified had they translated "caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 with the English word "rapture." They also could have translated it by the word snatch. We could just as easily call the rapture "the great snatch."The word rapture was used in the English language at least a couple of hundred years before J. N. Darby came along .The Greek word harpaz� is used fourteen times in the New Testament. In addition to 1 Thessalonians 4:17, it is used at least three more times of one being raptured to heaven (2 Cor. 12:2, 4; Rev. 12:5). So there is no need to get upset over the use of the Latin based, English word "rapture." It is a biblical word.

After the seven year Great Tribulation Jesus will touch down on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem. The Christians will accompany Him, and will help Him rule for one thousand years. Jesus said that the whole world will see His Second Coming, as the lightening flashes from the east to the west. Jesus will not return to the earth for at least seven years from now..

At the end of the Millenium (thousand year reign of Jesus on the earth) the unrighteous dead are resurrected and judged.

Hi Brother

Simply we don't know when it began.

Sorry

Agape

Darran

I was wondering the same thing too today