Catholics, how does 1 John 5:16 play into your understanding of the Communion of Saints?

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1 John 5:16 clearly sets forth the Catholic doctrine that not all sin is the same. John clearly says at verse 17 " All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal." Thus, sin whichis not mortal the Church calls venial. But i don't see this particular passage as supprtive of the doctrine of the Communion of Saints. I'm not sure how you do unless you believe in living saints. The phrase comunnion of saints to meimplies those who have been decalred saints by the Church and therefore present before God in Heaven. There are other passages that support prayer with the Saints and also praying for the souls of the dead.

The Confiteor could well be one of my favorite parts of the Mass (other than the Eucharist itself); thank you for reminding me of it.

I know that a sin unto death is something I must resolve in the Confessional ... or else. But I do take comfort in that part of the Mass. Even if the sin I lay at the feet of God is a mortal sin, I am still in communion with the saints, with the angels and with the Blessed Virgin. They give me encouragement, and they still pray for me.

I think John is saying that which we as Catholics know that there are venial sins that at death you will need to clear up in purgatory and our prayers will help them there as well as in this life. He is saying about the sin unto death what we call mortal sin, we can pray for them but because it is serious sin they have more or less condemned there selves an our prayers may be of little aid.

It plays in just fine. The Penitent Rite is for the cleaning of Venial sin.

We must confess mortal sin as it is a personal offensive against God.

We pray for one another to God so that if one in the body of Christ is ill the whole body is.

We share the burden of one another whether on earth or in heaven.

Peace be with you

<<<Devout Catholic>>>

same as saying... I ask "you - anonymous lutheran" to pray for me to the Lord, our God.

blessed Mary, agels and saints are all our brothers and sisters in heaven.. the direct presence of God....remember God according to Mark 12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Fact is blessed Mary, agels and saints are a million times more alive than you and me on this life on earth. so dont accuse a catholic of asking prayers from dead people.... the saints are more alive than all of us meere mortals.

The doctrine of the Communion of Saints is based on 1 Corinthians 12, where Paul compares Christians to a single body.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communion_of_Saints

With the communion of the saints we are better able to make our prayers to God even more powerful and noisy, so when we pray to God, we DO feel "in communion" with the mystical body. It's awesome being Catholic.

...If you go to a rock concert, you go with your friends.

As members of the Mystical Body of Christ and Communion of Saints we have the obligation to pray for each other and to admonish mortal sinners to turn to grace and come to spiritual life

and we should pray for the purging of ourselves and others in the state of grace from the barriers and stains of venial sin

Al members , especially those in heaven and closest to Christ, have the joyful duty of interconnection to pray for all, especially those in this mortal life who are caught up in habits or attitudes of venial sin

This verse can be applied broadly

The Confiteor with its acknowledgment of personal responsibility for sin in one's life before the whole Communion of Saints ( those living in mortality and those living in Heaven and in the state of Purgation) would fit into that verse

Umm? You kinda answered your own question by writing the prayer we say at Mass? If this helps?

I don't see what the problem is, or what you're getting at exactly.

Try being less cryptic with whatever point it is you are making.