Homosexuality isn't natural! Therefore it's wrong/immoral! False argument?

....or, as one of my favorite authors expressed it:

‘Not in favour of unnatural things.’

[...] ‘You mean, you eat your meat raw and sleep in a tree?’

-- Terry Pratchett, "The Fifth Elephant"

1) First off, if your going off biology than homosexuals are 'freaks of nature'.

2) Rape in nature is usually not 'rape' in the way it is for humans. Males are often expected to prove their strength.

3) Blood transfusions are unnatural? Not exactly. Just because we are the only species to do it, does not mean it is artificial. Bats are the only mammal that flies. Jellyfish is the only animal without a heart. Are these 'unnatural'? No. It fits their species nature.

4) You should also research homosexuality in nature. First off, it is rare. Second, when it does happen it is usually because the animal is desperate. When an animal gets desperate to mate, they will do what it takes to mate which means they may try to mate with a male, a rock, a stick, or even a can. Many so called 'homosexual behaviors' are often not homosexual. For example, when a young male elephant 'mounts' another young male elephant it is not homosexual. It is 'practice' for when he will mount an adult female when he leaves the herd.

5) How is watching TV unnatural? How is taking aspirin unnatural?

6) Lastly, homosexuality is not proven to be biological in anyway. No evidence suggests this. Now this does not mean it is a choice, but it does mean something else causes it. Most evidence suggests it is environmental. It can be linked to many different environmental factors, ones that are often negative such as rape, abuse, trauma and more. For example: When a girl is raped, she no longer truts men. She only trusts women. Very soon, when she is going through puberty, and when hormones strike she is more likely to be attracted to the gende that she trusts. Its why so many radical feminists are lesbian. Another example is when a young boy grows up watching his mother be abused by his father. The son may feel horrible for his mother and wish he could take her place, and soon starts to follow his mothers footsteps in everything. In the end, this can include liking men like his mother likes.

By ignoring these environmental factors and saying that homosexuality is ok, you are keeping many abuse, rape, or trauma victims from seeking help.

Where do you get such a flawed argument as Animals do homosexuality? I have lived on a farm around all kinds of animals for nearly 75 years and have never seen or heard of homosex in animals. i believe that is a lie some unreliable source perpetrated. Stop trying to make it sound OK. It is wrong because God says it is. Adultery is wrong because God says it is. Murder is wrong because God says it is.

If you prefer to do immoral, evil things at least have the decency not to peddle your trash where impressionable children can see it. Up to the point where you pander it you only have to answer to GOD FOR YOUR OWN SINS. Anything beyond that point you are what the Bible calls "offending [causing to sin] an innocent one to sin and "it were better if a millstone were hanged around such a ones neck and he be drowned in the sea." Rather seriously wrong in God's eyes.

Homosexuality in humans is indeed caused by their genetic make up it is in a sense a defect people who r gay r born that way however as with all types of sex with it comes responsibilities also although there r indeed moral issues with it however human consciousness evolves over time what may once have been seen as inappropriate then becomes more appropriate or more acceptable another reason 4 why some people r gay can also be explained through karma and reincarnation men who r gay were women in previous lives and women who r gay were men in previous lives and have opted for a more challenging incarnation in order to balance out negative and positive karma so need to learn to live through life as a homosexual to learn vital karmic lessons additionally man is a four fold being consisting of mind spirit body and soul and each part of the whole human being can be likened to the four kingdoms of nature the mineral kingdom the plant kingdom the animal kingdom and the kingdom of man the physical human body or physical body is called the mineral body the mental body is the plant body the soul body the animal body the spirit body the man body the animals only have a physical mental and soul animals do not have a spirit humans therefore have evolved a much higher level consciousness if a human harms another person or animal whether physically or mentally and emotionally humans have the ability to understand right from wrong so can take actions to make things better and r responsible for their own actions while animals either go by instinct and some times by experience and defence or hunger and although animals have a more basic memory animals do not have as higher consciousness as humans so if an animal harms or kills another animal either in defence or to eat the animal cannot feel guilt to the same extent that humans do if a human harms another person we can feel guilty and try to put things right as to homosexuality being unnatural it does to a much smaller extent exist in the animal kingdom also many groups of animals that live in large groups herds or packs will try and bond with all the other members of the group whether the other members r male or female in fact groups of primates such as monkeys etc spend ours grooming one and other partly to help strengthen relationships with each member of the group but also to help remove dead or damaged skin and hair and to remove flees ticks and mites etc humans did indeed evolve from the animal kingdom many hundreds of thousands of years ago but broke away from the animal kingdom about a hundred thousand years ago so our consciousness evolved over time and our consciousness evolved to a much higher level of consciousness however humans have still kept some of our more primitive animal instincts the reason homosexuality is considered wrong and immoral and strongly discouraged in the bible is because it has a lot of moral issues but also so we could learn for ourselves over time that homosexuality can be OK if used appropriately and with some responsibility etc as stated early some people r gay in order to learn through a more challenging incarnation in order to help balance both positive and negative karma if u r a Christian but find most more mainstream Christian and Catholic churches do not answer all life questions satisfactorly excuse spelling u may like to try either an esoteric Christian organization that is more theosophically based such as Anthroposophy or contact the gay Christian organization or try Christian Spiritualism I myself follow a form of Esoteric Christianity known world wide as Anthroposophy I think there r a small number of Christian organizations based on Rudolf Steiners Anthroposophy that do Christian services similar to Church Services also there r an even small number of Christian Spiritualist Churches thes r very small churches

I hope this helps

Thanx Graham J Baker

Anthroposophist (Esoteric Christian) and member of Anthroposophical Society of Great Britain

First of all people make changes to wikipedia all the time so you can never fully trust it.

Sometimes a male/female is born with to many of the hormones from the opposite gender so they are attracted to there own. They were born and were wired that way. I will say some people are bi Curious and just doing it for fun but most ain't

you put personal opinion as if it is fact.

The whole animals do it too so it must be natural argument is wrong. Animals eat each other, eat their young, viciously kill each other and have sex with multiple partners. Animals do not define what is natural and humans don't live by animal nature. We have our own laws and morals that only humans abide by.

Homosexuality is a life style. You can't really compare it to taking aspirin. The fact that man and woman are meant to be together in order to reproduce says that homosexuality is wrong.

its wrong because God says it's wrong, it creates nothing but more sin such as lust or maybe its just part of lust for gay people...its an abnormality in the brain, a form of rebellion against what's right and moral, it causes more diseases than being the way God intended, most gay people are really ashamed of it themselves (otherwise why would coming out be such a big deal) but they just don't have the courage to fight it,

Your wonderful rhetoric means absolutely nothing; homosexuality is NOT natural, and if you must compare the act of homosexuals to animals, you only add too the unnaturalness of it.

Actually no animal but humans penetrate the same sex, animals use mock mounting as dominance shows.

The truth is God created us humans as heterosexual and regards any other sexual choice or behavior as sin. Sin is rebellion against God and His way of life.