Have read Zechariah 8 recently?

Most prophecies can have several fulfillments.

Very soon we will see & vs 23 the Jew we hold onto is Y'shua.

He teaches us, He knows the Father God, we follow Him!

Now, considering verses 20-23; is there any secular or religious historian who can say that these decrees have already past?

Yes, I can, what you're seeing or may be seeing is a REPEAT of the same, Here is why I say that:

Ecclesiastes 1:9

9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

Ecclesiastes 3:15

That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

So, whatever you are thought to be seeing, it has already been in old time which was before you.

So in conclusion i'm saying this: If you can't see a current or future event in the past, it is highly unlikely that you clearly understand it in the presence or the future.

Messiah when he taught: It was BEGINNING at Moses, then all the prophets, to get them to or to bring them to understand the present time they all stood in. ( Lk.24:25-27,44 )

It started being activated long before anybody that's alive now was ever in existence actually. There are various individual things that have to happen to get to this final point. Although, if you go back and take a look and study the prophecies that are related to this, you will find that what Zechariah 8 talks about could easily happen in our life time. Don't get me wrong, it WILL for sure happen...the devil can't stop it...but as far as when, our life time has a good chance of seeing it.

many have been grafted onto the vine, but by turning away from the Lord through sin they get cut off, that vine who is Jesus. Only through repentance and amendment of life can anyone be re-grafted back on.

properly is there such an corporation as a real church. keep in mind god tried to renounce such goings on. God did no longer order us to construct church homes,they're merely a artifical corporation and as such are in threat of bypass off beam. keep in mind the parrabol of the 7 church homes of Philidelphia? The bible has been rewritten and revised and clraned up a lot that generations at present have no thought what replaced into somewhat interior the previous testomony to no longer mentiuon the hot testomony. each thing is approximately funds at present to the factor that some church homes assume a member to offer a minimum of 15% of their earnings to the church. in any different case they're deemed a member no longer in sturdy status and could desire to be dropped from the member roll. to respond to your question approximately authentic church homes in case you detect one that rather preaches from the previous testomony (Gods' be conscious) then that's a church properly worth whilst attending. I keep in mind one time at christnas service after it replaced into over an older gentleman approached the pastor and stated I even have been coming right here for some years and each 365 days that's the comparable sermon, the pastor spoke back that as long as he replaced into pastor at that church he will proceed to chat from the previous testomony and not something. there is greater that i could desire to relate yet i'm going to spare you all as you probable get the tone of what I even have stated.

I just read it, thanks.

Amen, so be it.

The times have come and are coming to pass.

Jesus of Nazareth – LORD GOD of Israel; King of the Universe, did dwell in Jerusalem, and will do so again.

Since so many made remarks to the effect they have not read this chapter from Zechariah, I thought I would post it and give them the opportunity to and let the WORD speak for itself.

Zechariah 8:1 And the word of the Lord of hosts came, saying, 2 “Thus says the Lord of hosts: I am jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I am jealous for her with great wrath. 3 Thus says the Lord: I have returned to Zion and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem, and Jerusalem shall be called the faithful city, and the mountain of the Lord of hosts, the holy mountain. 4 Thus says the Lord of hosts: Old men and old women shall again sit in the streets of Jerusalem, each with staff in hand because of great age. 5 And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in its streets. 6 Thus says the Lord of hosts: If it is marvelous in the sight of the remnant of this people in those days, should it also be marvelous in my sight, declares the Lord of hosts? 7 Thus says the Lord of hosts: behold, I will save my people from the east country and from the west country, 8 and I will bring them to dwell in the midst of Jerusalem. And they shall be my people, and I will be their God, in faithfulness and in righteousness.”

9 Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Let your hands be strong, you who in these days have been hearing these words from the mouth of the prophets who were present on the day that the foundation of the house of the Lord of hosts was laid, that the temple might be built. 10 For before those days there was no wage for man or any wage for beast, neither was there any safety from the foe for him who went out or came in, for I set every man against his neighbor. 11 But now I will not deal with the remnant of this people as in the former days, declares the Lord of hosts. 12 For there shall be a sowing of peace. The vine shall give its fruit, and the ground shall give its produce, and the heavens shall give their dew. And I will cause the remnant of this people to possess all these things. 13 And as you have been a byword of cursing among the nations, O house of Judah and house of Israel, so will I save you, and you shall be a blessing. Fear not, but let your hands be strong.”

14 For thus says the Lord of hosts: “As I purposed to bring disaster to you when your fathers provoked me to wrath, and I did not relent, says the Lord of hosts, 15 so again have I purposed in these days to bring good to Jerusalem and to the house of Judah; fear not. 16 These are the things that you shall do: Speak the truth to one another; render in your gates judgments that are true and make for peace; 17 do not devise evil in your hearts against one another, and love no false oath, for all these things I hate, declares the Lord.”

18 And the word of the Lord of hosts came to me, saying, 19 “Thus says the Lord of hosts: The fast of the fourth month and the fast of the fifth and the fast of the seventh and the fast of the tenth shall be to the house of Judah seasons of joy and gladness and cheerful feasts. Therefore love truth and peace.

20 “Thus says the Lord of hosts: Peoples shall yet come, even the inhabitants of many cities. 21 The inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying, ‘Let us go at once to entreat the favor of the Lord and to seek the Lord of hosts; I myself am going.’ 22 Many peoples and strong nations shall come to seek the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem and to entreat the favor of the Lord. 23 Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’

No, these things don't exist in the real world. Just in your head.

Those profecies occured in all generations since the coming of that jesus fellow, and no return of that false prophet, stop the brain washing please in the name of God please do !

No, but as you have so aptly illustrated, it contains nothing but nonsense.