Believers: Have you noticed that science...?

There's a huge paradox when explaining advanced scientific concepts to creationists. If you explain it in simplistic terms, they'll be too closed minded to think it makes sense. Then, if you explain it in detail so they can understand why it makes perfect sense, they don't understand what you're talking about.

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-A simple explanation-

It's impossible to know everything in a quantum system.

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Now, a creation would be like "durr scientists are stupid they can't even know that, how do we trust them about evolution hurr?". So then you have to explain it in detail.

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-A detailed explanation-

Einstein's equations show that the energy of a photon is expressed like this:

E = hf

And the relationship between the energy and momentum is expressed with:

E = cp

Since E=hf, you can do this:

p=E/c

=hf/c

=hc/cλ

=h/λ

So now you get the DeBrogle wavelength which says that the smaller a wavelength is, the larger the momentum will be.

To get the exact position of an electron λ (the wavelength) has to be smaller than the electron, but this creates a paradox because a smaller wavelength will make the position uncertain due to the photoelectric effect. There is no possible way to know the position and momentum simultaneously. If you know the exact position, you will have infinite possibilities for the momentum and vice versa. If you express it mathematically. you get this:

▲x▲p > hbar/2

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And the creationist would be like "WHAT?? That's just jargon and gibberish it doesn't explain anything!".

Theists, accept the fact that your knowlege of science is nothing compared to an evolutionary biologist's or a PhD physicist's. Get a degree in biology before you deny evolution, and get a degree in physics before you deny the big bang.

Science is also constantly wrong. One of the first things they teach you, when majoring in a science, is that you are required to be wrong. Scientific laws come around mainly from science being wrong and having to be corrected.

That is why you should not base your beliefs solely upon a process which basically requires things to be wrong.

Lastly, science is not anti-belief. Science is limited to the laws of nature and thus cannot even comment on supernaturl beliefs.

Science does not work the way you may think when it comes to origins. Since no one was there when God first created it cannot be reproduced.

'Science' does not work, science is our models of the universe. The universe works whatever you believe, but our models of it have been innacurate and wrong in the past.

I don't know many Christians who deny the science of the world.

True; but you must remember that Scientists did not create science.

long before there were scientists, our universe operated flawlessly.

Non-believers: Have you noticed that the rejection of certain scientific theories is not a wholesale rejection of science? Apparently not, considering how many times this entirely baseless accusation is used.

Why do atheists believe that Christians discount science. That is a false teaching perpetuated by atheists. Of course Christians accept science. We just don't believe in the Big Bang THEORY. They don't call it a theory for nothing. True Christians believe in creation but not a literal 6 days. The Bible does not support that.

The Bible does not specify the length of each of the creative periods. Yet all six of them have ended, it being said with respect to the sixth day (as in the case of each of the preceding five days): “And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a sixth day.” (Ge 1:31) However, this statement is not made regarding the seventh day, on which God proceeded to rest, indicating that it continued. (Ge 2:1-3) Also, more than 4,000 years after the seventh day, or God’s rest day, commenced, Paul indicated that it was still in progress. At Hebrews 4:1-11 he referred to the earlier words of David (Ps 95:7, 8, 11) and to Genesis 2:2 and urged: “Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest.” By the apostle’s time, the seventh day had been continuing for thousands of years and had not yet ended. The Thousand Year Reign of Jesus Christ, who is Scripturally identified as “Lord of the sabbath” (Mt 12:8), is evidently part of the great sabbath, God’s rest day. (Re 20:1-6) This would indicate the passing of thousands of years from the commencement of God’s rest day to its end. The week of days set forth at Genesis 1:3 to 2:3, the last of which is a sabbath, seems to parallel the week into which the Israelites divided their time, observing a sabbath on the seventh day thereof, in keeping with the divine will. (Ex 20:8-11) And, since the seventh day has been continuing for thousands of years, it may reasonably be concluded that each of the six creative periods, or days, was at least thousands of years in length.

That a day can be longer than 24 hours is indicated by Genesis 2:4, which speaks of all the creative periods as one “day.” Also indicative of this is Peter’s inspired observation that “one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.” (2Pe 3:8) Ascribing not just 24 hours but a longer period of time, thousands of years, to each of the creative days better harmonizes with the evidence found in the earth itself.

Created Things Preceded Man’s Inventions. Thousands of years before many of man’s inventions appeared on the scene, Jehovah had provided his creations with their own versions of them. For example, the flight of birds preceded by millenniums the development of airplanes. The chambered nautilus and the cuttlefish use flotation tanks to descend and ascend in the ocean as submarines do. Octopus and squid employ jet propulsion. Bats and dolphins are experts with sonar. Several reptiles and sea birds have their own built-in “desalination plants” that enable them to drink seawater.

Yes, science is life.

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