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ISDS
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ISDS asked in SportsMartial Arts · 10 years ago

Is there a single properly executed technique in this forms/kata routine?

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  • 10 years ago
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    I can say I am impressed with her balance and flexibility.

    Other than that I don't know what you call this. It is not a traditional kata. She did a routine, but it is not something that should ever be used to teach self defense. Of course this is just my opinion. I'm certain she is proud of her accomplishments. I do like how her kicks returns back to her hip. That movement is correct, but the round house is way too high.

    This would make a decent demonstration to those that don't know traditional martial arts.

    Edit:

    I mentioned the kicks being too high. What purpose does this serve beside a demonstration? I believe that all of us recognized that this is not a traditional kata. I can't even call this a kata. This is why people today are losing respect for karate. They look at karate as just a dance (bullshido). That is what this was, just a dance. It not a creative kata. In every kata there should be bunkai. What are the applications in this kata. You will not find many. This is only good for putting on a show. There was no self defense in mind when this was created. If that is the case it is not martial arts.

    This is not an attack on the young lady. She is talented. There are positive things to take from what she did. Balance, flexibility, the different uses of the foot such as blade, ball of foot, etc. Her kicks were snapping and returning to the point of origin. All of those are good things. But in a kata there are things that you should get out of them. These are not displayed or hidden in her routine. There is no applications.

    Source(s): Martial Arts since 1982
  • 10 years ago

    There are many but I guess some of my counterparts here let their dislike for that type of kata taint their judgment. Note how her foot, ankle, and toe positions change when she does rapid fire kicking and at times kicks with the instep and other times with the blade of the foot when changing to side kicks.

    Also note the alignment of her hands, wrists, and forearms on her strikes, punches and blocks. While you may not care for this type of kata or performance if you look at her technique and some of the aspects that I mention you will see what I am saying.

    You also have to realize that this is not a traditional kata nor is it a traditional kata division and so you tend to see balance moves, gymnastics, and a great many things that don't fit in with traditional kata interspersed with traditional aspects like you have here in this case. I guess some just can't look or get past traditional aspects though and that's fine to some extent. However there are those out there that now gravitate towards this who at one time did traditional kata and still practice and do it for testing and promotion purposes some of whom I personally know.

    The level of skill and athleticism that they can do something like this nontraditional kata with they can also do traditional kata with if they are thoroughly trained and have a good instructor. They just prefer the flash over more traditional kata is really all it is.

  • 10 years ago

    I don't believe that there are any kata in Tricking - correct me if I'm wrong, though. The thing about Tricking - well, it's called tricking for a reason. Almost all of the moves seen here are unusable in a real fight, and will just get you flat on your *** in no time.

    Oh, and if you don't want any excess comments about Tricking (like I gave you), I'd suggest giving US a little more info. For example, "I saw this person doing some Tricking, did they do this move right at..." or "What kind of martial art is this person doing" etc.

  • 10 years ago

    She should be on one of those talent shows for dancers. I could not watch the video. I almost threw up before she ever started the so called Kata. I turned it off as soon as she did that ridiculous slow spin while holding a kick out (I use the term loosely). If this is martial arts then I'm Bigfoot.

    To be fair, I'll say this. What this girl does is a skill/talent. But it should not be presented as anything other than a dance or gymnastic skill. It should never be linked in any way with real martial arts. In a real fight, she would not stand a chance with even a good yellow belts.

    ..........

    Source(s): Martial art training and research since 1967 Teaching martial arts since 1973
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  • possum
    Lv 7
    10 years ago

    She did a bow correctly.

    But, I like watching Chloe Bruce. She's a freak of nature (a pleasant one!) I don't really like anyone's rendition of competitive/creative forms, because much of what was taught seems to be tossed out the window while performing them. Nevertheless, she sets the bar at a new level in terms of what the human body can do.

    http://www.chloebruce.co.uk/

    EDIT:

    Having looked at the video more closely, I'd say she did nearly all of her techniques properly. I'm guessing the hang-up is the combinations of well-executed techniques: were the kicks to high? were the kicks effective? is there an application for any of the acrobatics or multiple techniques? I don't know. To anyone who complains about kicks being too high, my response is that if you can kick high, you can kick low. If you can kick many, you can kick one. As to the acrobatics: I'd say she has one up on the rest of us who perform a high-fall: where we would land on the back, she would land on her feet. In other words, where I would be required to perform a forward roll or a high-fall to get out of a lock or throw, she can simply walk out of it. I would rather have the option to choose between high-fall or walk-away, rather than be just relegated to high-fall. There are many who use acrobatics in their creative forms, particularly XMA stylists; but note that most of the time, they require height. Ms Bruce does not.

    As to steadyness of her techniques: you have a point. As is the case with many people who are ultra-flexible, they often lack strength at that extreme range of motion. Here, she lacked it in a few places, particularly in her hands. Nevertheless, her form is clearly creative. As I said before, I don't like creative forms, because it usually results in a demonstration of things the performer can do well, rather than a demonstration of a (realistic) application.

    And as to the showmanship, where the competition seems to be out-screaming Jamie Lee Curtis, I don't like that either. That is anathama to humility and mushin.

  • Jay
    Lv 7
    10 years ago

    Not at all. She has remarkable flexibility and balance... that's about it. The rest of her has very poor dynamics. She's sloppy and has no stopping power. Her arms shake and jitter at every stop with absolutely no snap whatsoever. Not solid at all. Her hands and feet aren't timed together, and she doesn't look to what she's doing until after it's there, which tells me her mind is nowhere in the form. She obviously not being aware of herself much. Some of that could account as just being nervous and for performing in front of a large group of people (and knowing your there to be judged).

  • Kokoro
    Lv 7
    10 years ago

    im glad i could turn off the volume,

    if i get a headache while judging a kata i deduct points, the second she walking into the ring i new what this was going to be. she had no technique what so ever. i really dont get why they consider this crap martial arts

    Source(s): 30yrs ma
  • 10 years ago

    No, but a few non-martial applications do come to mind!

    Edit @ Pugpaws, She was on one of them. She was on "When will I be Famous?" and "Showreel" several times. Both are European shows.

  • Jim R
    Lv 7
    10 years ago

    She is a showboat, not a martial artist.

    She is a well-trained showboat.

    I agree with pugpaws Sensei, she should call it a dance routine.

    She should learn karate!

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