Christians: Do you think that secular society has robbed men of their role as leaders of the family?

I was just discussing this on this forum with someone the other day brother Martin. I don't watch TV, but when I did I think modern day sitcoms say it all in what our society thinks of men. Fathers and husbands in today's sitcoms are portrayed as fat lazy slobs with no brains and women these brilliant sex pots who constantly have to take up the slack for their idiot husbands. We can thank liberalism and the radical feminist movement for this.

I could give the names of many sitcoms that portray men in just this way, but I think you get the point. Satan knows that men are the head of the family which is why he so attacks them as he does. To answer your question. Yes, secular society has in many regards robbed them of their role. Or is trying to anyways.

Sadly many on this forum will see the current social trends in family unites as progress, but looking at our society and where it's headed you and I know better.Liberalism and radical feminism is even finding it's way into the Church. Hence the Christian answers here supporting the current social trends.

Truly we are in the last days brother Martin. And things will continue to get darker just as God's word said it would. Hang onto Jesus with everything in you because it's going to be a bumpy ride.

Great thinking here. Yes, man is currently not having the role of merely breadwinner and cold figure of the leader of family. The woman is emerging more and more.

But the role of providing stability for the family is more crucial. Bonding relationship within the family, by a living example of a good , loving , graceful and communicative Father, who is just an extension of the image of our Father in heaven, is more important than all. Father is the locomotive who will direct the family whether towards God or towards destruction. All depends on the father, and not the mother, as the mother will also look up to the father.

Adam had failed this duty, but the second Adam our Lord Jesus Christ, has renewed this and imputed His completed work on the cross , unto us the believers to receive the authority, powered by Holy Spirit, of the real function of a father in Christ, that Christ will take the lead in our life, and everything else will be added in our life according to His riches and glory.

Shalom,

Secular society tries to rob us of our Christian heritage and everything to do with it.

Opening doors is a small thing when it comes to all the things women need men to be for them. If men run around drinking, and cheating on their wives, ignoring the children and blowing up over minor things or when their stability is needed badly, they are total failures as husbands even if they are holding down a job. Too many men run off and leave women with all the hard work of raising children by themselves, and when women have to have two jobs in order to make ends meet, the children are left alone quite often for hours. There are too many situations where selfishness is ruining families like that.

I think the worse thing we women ever did was ask for equality & do all the Women's Lib Movement ... it just got us going off to work & leaving our kids to fend for themselves just for us to keep up w/ the Joneses. Then after that, many men backed off & let the women take the lead! Oh yeah, and then the women come home & still have several more hrs work. I don't think it is secular society per se but rather satan!

I think men should 'wear the pants' IF they earn that role!

I do not, in any way, condone a man acting as if the woman is supposed to be subservient.

God help our men get their backbones back.

Most definitely! They have robbed man of their maleness as well. the "feminist movement" has attempted to make male and female the same. While they may be equal in many ways, they are not the same. God, himself, made a definite difference. As a result, the family as a whole has suffered but especially the children. This has been going on since around the '60's, and it appears to be getting worse. No one can tell me this is a good thing.

Clearly, much of the influence of feminism has been negative for men. Feminists refuse to recognize different roles for men and women, and some would see a man opening a door as a kind of insult. Women are expected to train to be their own breadwinners. Even children are taught "gender-neutral" behavior, so that boys are supposed to play with dolls (but girls are not allowed to play with toy guns, for other reasons).

Perhaps even more serious is the baleful influence of feminism on the family. Women are taught that it is somehow virtuous to commit prenatal homicide if a child might interfere with a career or, horrors, alter one's figure. Both sexes are encouraged to follow sexual desires to sexual relations with either sex, and promiscuity always makes marriage difficult, if not impossible. The notion of self-sacrifice, basic to marriage, is disparaged as a relic of a bygone age.

Many men have bought into feminism because it is completely consistent with the Playboy mentality of irresponsible sex without a love relationship. Ironically, this mentality is extraordinarily damaging to women. Women are sexually used when they are young and attractive, and then abandoned when they lose their youthful sexiness.

In the end, society can't rob men of their role as leaders of the family, but the widespread practice of selfish and destructive actions such as these clearly makes it more difficult for both men and women to find the happiness in marriage and family that God designed.

Cheers,

Bruce

I sort of think it started before Madelyn Murray O'Hair and Gloria Steinem stirred the pot but it certainly took a down spin since.

God made women as helpmates not to be executives, soldiers, etc. I'm not saying they can't do the job because some women can but that's not what God designed them to be. A lot of wimpy men allowed it to happen because they liked the idea of women going Dutch or being able to pay for the their meal, etc. Personally, I think men need to step up to the plate and take back their rightful positions as head of the home.

The Bible teaches equality between men and women but the man is the head of woman just as Christ is the head of the Church and the Father is head over all. God created Adam first and took a rib from Adam to make Eve. She was from his side to be beside him not above or below him.

The alpha women have no idea what they are missing out on by being their husband's helpmates instead of the bread winner. These women emasculate their men that's one reason why there are so many divorces, wife beatings, etc. Men have become frustrated with overbearing women.

Men wouldn't you like to come home to a clean home, wife clean and smelling good, dinner on the table, and the children fed and tucked in bed shortly after so you could enjoy some peace and quiet after a long days work? Remember Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best and most of the older TV programs when men were men. Everything just goes better when a man is under God's authority and woman obeying God by placing herself under her husband's authority and raising her children under God's admonition.

Yes. It's always hard when changes occur. Changes require a lot of dialogue,

don't they. In following the bible, I believe the woman is the weaker vessel,

and this does NOT mean anything like, 'dumb, stupid, incapable' but can mean

various things like maybe not able to understand how to be female, and how

this can or should be different from male. All of society is in upheaval about

all this. I take the bible as guide, where Paul said that Jesus was the HEAD of

the church, and the man was the HEAD of the woman. The father, we note

is the HEAD of Jesus. So, in each case, we have a body. Jesus is then

the body of the Father, the woman is the body of the man. We're just learning

how amazing both head and body are today. And they are different.

Yet satan would blend them, blur them. So, to know how the man is the

head, we would see how Jesus is the head of the church. The body seeks

the head, does it not? And the head can see better, while the body often

can hear and feel in stronger ways. This then we can help each other

along the way. Stability today has changed but is still at least as needed

as ever before. Just different now, like a shift.

I think feminism has a lot more to do with that than anything else would. As long as they're (guys) are actually providing for the family it doesn't bother me too much-by that I mean it doesn't concern me. Chivalry was pretty secular from the start.

EDIT: Take note, feminism and women having equal rights are two completely seperate things. That said, there is no doubt that everything is influenced by media. Including the way people raise their kids. It's kinda hard for me especially since I'm 22 and all.

I do think that men aren't as motivated as they once were, but not due to "secular society." Some men now realize that women can earn a good living and so they don't feel as compelled to be the major bread winner.

In my household, I am the breadwinner. I worked my way through school, bought my own house and have a great career which I did all on my own. Now, my fiance goes to school full-time while I support him. I don't mind it, but it's definitely not your family life from the 50s. I think that's a really good thing.