Isn't Triple h the greatest of alltime(if kayfabe is real)!!!?

Hell no. How come people consider you great if you just earned most of those accomplishments by cheating? In case, if you still remember, Triple H has been a "HEEL" for most part of his career. And you should still remember he earned most of those via cheating.

His European title win isn't clean, HBK laid down for him. And half of his 13 World Title wins aren't clean. He won his 1st World title from Mankind via help from Shane McMahon, later he won his 2nd World Title in 6 Pack Challenge with help from British Bulldog. He won his 3rd World Title from Big Show with help from D-X member. His 4th World Title win from The Rock is via The Undertaker accidently cost The Rock. He later won his 8th World Title from Goldberg with help from Evolution. And his 9th World Title from Randy Orton with help from Flair and Batista. His 10th in Elimination Chamber with help from Batista.

Not to mention, Triple H has tons list of unclean victories. He wins most of his matches as a heel via outside interference. His successful title defenses against RVD, Kane, Scott Steiner, Booker T, etc are also via interference. Triple H always cheat from the start of his career, he always get help from everyone : from Chyna DX, McMahon-Hemsley Faction, and later Evolution.

The kayfabe greatest wrestler of all time is without doubt Hulk Hogan in 1980s. He can win almost every match he's in CLEAN. He has never been pinned clean from 1984-1990. And the only times he got pinned in 1984-1990 I think is only against Andre The Giant in 1988. No matter how much you hurt him, he will somehow always comeback and win the match. He's so UNBEATABLE.

And the only men who ever beat Hogan in his prime: The Undertaker, Ultimate Warrior, Yokozuna, and Andre The Giant.

Hogan would later return in WWE when he's 49 years old. And he's still that unbeatable. He would lose to The Rock clean, but later beat Triple H to win WWE Title. And even The Undertaker can't beat him clean the next month when he's 49 years old. He would later put over Angle clean, I give him credit for that. But, he can't even put Lesnar clean, it was a distraction from Paul Heyman. WTF? And he would return again in 2003. The Rock can't beat him clean in the rematch when he's 50 years old. WTF? And later, he would return again in 2005 and 2006 beating the far younger Shawn Michaels and Randy Orton at 53 years of age CLEAN. WTF?

Is this realistic at all? Hogan has been so dominant even in his 50s. He's still that much unbeatable in his 50s.

The one who come close to Hogan is Goldberg. He has demolished every wrestlers that quickly, getting 173-0 winning streak. He even beat Sting in 3 minutes and Hogan in just 6 minutes. Later, he would enter WWE and in just short time, he beat The Rock and Triple H. He would later beat Brock Lesnar in his final WWE match. I think Goldberg's the only man who never lost clean in his entire career. Whenever Goldberg loses, it's always via outside interference.

So, the greatest of all time if kayfabe is real is Hulk Hogan and Goldberg. The third one would be The Undertaker, he also wins most of his matches clean and rarely loses clean even in his mid 40s.

Triple H isn't even come close. He wins most of his matches unclean, via cheating and loses a lot of matches clean (check out he loses to Benoit, Batista, and John Cena at WM 20,21,22 all clean).

Even tho I hate PRETENDING to answer questions in kayfabe, i'll do it this time just because it's your last day in the Wrestling category of Yahoo Answers. Since we're talking in kayfabe I would have to base the top 10 on title wins, records, streaks, etc. But I don't think anyone has actually kept track on the win/loss records in WWE, because WWE is not like the MMA and boxing. *Notice, I will only mention the most important achievement of their careers* 1. Ric Flair. I can't believe no one mentioned this legendary pro wrestler. I would consider Ric Flair the greatest, both in keyfabe and not. 16 time world champion and most winning of all time speaks for itself. 2. The Undertaker. Undefeated at The grandest stage of them all, Wrestlemania 19-0. 3. Andre The Giant Undefeated for 15 f'ing years. That's impressive in a keyfabe manner. 4. Triple H Thirteen time World Champion. 5. Bruno Sammartino. WWE Champion for 2803 days. The time when the title actually meant something. 6. Trish Stratus 7 time WWE Champion. You can debate on whether or not a woman deserves to be on the list(considering that the men's division is tougher and more competitive than the women's division, but I still think that women deserve more recognition.) 7. The Fabulous Moolah. Women's Champion for 10170 days. Respect. Just the fact that she was allowed to hold the title for that long showcases the respect and admiration she achieved. 8. Chris Jericho. First ever undisputed WWF champion. If that is not impressive enough, he beat THE ROCK and STONE COLD at the SAME night. Those two were the most popular wrestlers at that time and the fact that Jericho beat them both is a huge achievement. 9. Edge. 12-time Tag team Champion. 10. Hulk Hogan. WWE champion for 1474 days. BQ: Well, if WWE was indeed completely real then yes, the biggest and most dominant guys would be holding the titles more often. The "smaller" guys like The Rock, Cena and Austin held the titles more often because they were bigger draws with more charisma and personality. This just goes to show that kayfabe is not real.

I have to agree that Triple "The King of Kings","The Cerebral Assassin","The Game","The 13 time World Champion",and now "The COO of the WWE" is truly one of the Greatest of all time.He is one of my all time favorites.He has worked is @$$ off for 15 years and has earned those championships,those accolades,he has been the best and has mainevented more WrestleManias than anyone in the WWE.I agree that he is better than Rock and Austin combined.Heel or Face Triple H has been successful in both ways and has always got the job done.That's why he is "That Damn Good."

EDIT-Triple H has a good beliveable gimmick which the fans (us) can relate too. Over time he has altered his gimmick in order to fit in with the times.Triple H has been in the best tag teams and stables period. D Generation X, Evolution, The Two man power trip....Triple H has good in-ring ability as well as great Mic Skills which means not only is he believable as a "power house" he is also a great Entertainer.. And most importantly He can sell and Push younger/newer talent! I have said it time and again that what makes a great Wrestler is not only his or hers performance but how they treat their fellow Wrestlers. One thing I along with the majority of other Wrestling fans hated about Hogan was the fact that he could not Sell meaning he never gave younger talent a chance to shine or allow them an oppertunity to present themselves as belivable.. With Hogan it was all about me....me...me.Triple H on the other hand is the opposite. Not only do he make it seem as though his opponent (Whoever it is) look like they have a chance he either gains them heat if their a heal or helps you to relate to them if their a face...For example Triple H helped put Jeff Hardy on the top of Smackdown (armageddon 2008), Batista to win the WHC in which he lost both re-matches...Pushed Benoit and gave face time to WCW guys who were coming over (Scott Steiner and Goldberg). In 2009 he made it belivable that Legacy were a force to be reckoned with and that Sheamus was a monster.

I know one of the reasons a small minority of Fans think Triple H is "Over Rated Wrestler" is because he is married to the bosses daughter...Well If i was married to Stephanie I would be more than a 13 time champion...I would never let anyone beat me...

Julius C is right

1900-1950--Lou Thesz (though he was beaten by our Dara Singh multiple times in 1960's)

1951-2000--Ric Flair

2001--Present--Kurt Angle because he's been a total package

wrestling skills : Angle > HHH

mic skills : Angle = HHH

accomplishments :

HHH only in wwe

Angle won titles in wwe, tna, japanese promotions.. AND Olympics

so overall its Angle

btw both HHH and Kurt Angle are also 2 of the best heels in pro wrestling. No one else comes close except Ric Flair maybe.

I agree with Julius. You make an excellent case for Triple H being the greatest of all time...in the WWE. But could he have accomplished anything like that in other promotions? WCW didn't think so. Triple H never went to Japan or Mexico to compete in their promotions.

Triple H is awesome, no question, perhaps the greatest of all time in the WWE, looking at his list of accomplishments and years he's spent as a main eventer and world title contender/champion.

But that IS just one promotion.

Thesz, Flair, and Angle made their accomplishments in multiple promotions.

Triple H is one of the best Wrestlers of his generation, but I don't consider him to be The Greatest of all time. In my opinion, the greatest Wrestlers of all time can be broken down this way:

1900-1950--Lou Thesz

1951-2000--Ric Flair

2001--Present--Kurt Angle

All of Triple H's Achievements are in one Professional Wrestling Promotion, The WWF/WWE. Lou Thesz, Ric Flair and Kurt Angle won championships in multiple Professional Wrestling Promotions.

Tragedy strikes every now and then. It is a cold reminder of how fortunate many of us are. Professional wrestling has seen more than its fair share of tragedies, and this week, a few more happened. Mark Canterbury (aka Henry Godwin) was in a very serious car accident that resulted in a broken leg, two punctured lungs and several broken ribs. While in surgery doctors removed his spleen and appendix, as well as a tumor they came upon. Canterbury is in rough shape but will hopefully recover soon enough. James Harris (aka Kamala) had to have his foot amputated because of complications of diabetes and high blood pressure. This will mean the end of his career, but hopefully he will have a speedy recovery. It is amazing how tragedies can make one reflect. What happened to Canterbury and Harris made me reflect on their careers, what I remember about them, and how much I appreciate them. Then there are those times when tragedy strikes in another form. When it happens, it can make one reflect negatively. This happened to me this week with Shane Douglas. Between all three of these men I have done a lot of thinking this week about what it is that happened to these guys. Harris and Canterbury suffered from physical trauma. Douglas simply opened his mouth.

Canterbury spent some time in WCW before his WWE run. He and Dennis Knight were the tag team of Shanghai Pierce and Tex Slazenger, respectively, with Canterbury wearing a mask for a good portion of the team's tenure. When Canterbury joined WWE in 1995, he was given a hog farmer character named Henry Godwin. Traditional fans didn't care for the character, seeing it as another goofy character in a company that had a clown, a dentist and a pirate already running around. Yet Godwin made the character entertaining. Even those who didn't like the character enjoyed when he would dump his bucket of slop on a bad guy. One of the more fun matches of 1995 was his Hog Pen match against Triple H.

When you look at the records, its HHH without a shadow of a doubt!

But I think the Undertaker is the greatest of all time!

it took triple h longer to get over than rock or austin did, they tryed everything to get him over such as new music and wearing a chain.

agree with u