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My mare has had a history of abusive owners (Both mentally and physically) and is a lot more.... sketchy? Then my gelding because I am only his 2nd owner and I know what his past was like. In daily interactions with my mare, she will find something scary and throw her head. This is where you come in...
Because Casey jumps at something, for example last night, my car keys (3 keys on a chain) Because I took my cellphone out and they were on top. So naturally I show her that they are not going to hurt her (Start talking to her in a calm voice and let her sniff the keys, rub around her body with the keys and finally try introducing them to her face, by then she is normally okay with whatever object I had in my hands), and by the end, I could jingle the keys by her ear and shes fine. But the process of it scares her, and I want her to get to a point from being freaked out to being fine with it, and I call that "Training" or "Desensitizing" her where as my mom calls it sick torture that I get pleasure from.
Another example is from tonight, when I went to place my hands on either side of her face, she whipped her head up so I went into the stall and started massaging her for head scratching her cheeks and try to make my way to the corners of her mouth. Obviously she hates it so its a long process before she feels calm enough to let me pet/touch her mouth area without her tossing her head.
My mom's main argument in this is "Why is it always her?! Go bug your other horse!!!!!!" I used to say fine, go up to my gelding and do what I was doing to Casey (Jingling keys, touching mouth and all that) And he sits there and takes it. So I would Say "Seems like hes fine with it, now can I try making Casey fine with it" And she would just yell some more and then leave angry.
So, basically, my question is, Do you think that what I am doing is, in my moms words, torturing her or, in my opinion, trying to desensitize her so she can be more comfortable with new things. If you think what I am doing is wrong, please give me advice on how to properly do it. I just drives me mad when she starts yelling at me fore doing that.
Thanks!
I think my moms main problem is that Casey throws her head every time, and it takes a 20 minute process. She will throw it up and, if my hands are on her, I will usually just hang on then bring in back down she she is (In her way) cuddling me again, and start over. Each time she does better and better but its a damn long process! With a lot of head tossing
I think I need to clear a tat bit up, Casey is quite brave. She will face balloons, tarps, dangling cans, Chain saw from when we had to clear land, grazed peacefully next to the barn with a table saw ripping apart tiles and take a nap with a tarp over her. She has no issues with big things that are actually scary to most other horse. Its just stupid things like keys, mugs, touching her face, cellphone dinging, farts. Shes just odd. I've had her for over a year now, and some things just freak her out way more then others.
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- ?Lv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
What you are doing is correct. You are showing her that nothing you have will hurt her. You are building a trust that has long been shattered. In doing so, you will also create a great bond. Keep doing what you are doing, I don't know what your mothers' issue is!!?
- BarefoottrimmerLv 79 years ago
What you are doing is correct. You mom needs some education so that she can understand what you are doing. There are a lot of educational sites that will enable her to learn about this type of interaction with horses like this mare.
the only thing I would suggest is that you do not wait to address such matters as they occur. Set her up with situations that will freak her out so you can help her be trusting and learn that things in everyday life are not going to hurt her or eat her. Horses are afraid everything is going to kill them. I would use a rope halter and lead rope and throw it at her, her back , hips, neck, entire topline, and then her legs and underbelly from both sides. Sack her out with feed sacks and grocery bags. Put a bandana on the end of a stick and shake it all around her until you can rub her all over with it from both sides. Take a tarp and pull it up to her and around her and behind her and then lay it down and have her walk across it. Anything like this would be good for her to decrease her stress in her everyday life which could save her from gastric distress and ulcers and other stress related issues. It will also help her trust you and understand that when you are around, nothing will hurt her and she will learn to be less freaked out just being in her own skin. Anything that is sensitizing and desensitizing is great for all horses, but especially a horse like this.
Mom needs to stop with her stressful freaking out. She should not be reactive around this horse as it does effect her. Again, maybe some education would help her calm down at least around the horse. So just continue to help the horse. That is always the most important thing. Good luck.
- 9 years ago
You are totally right in doing all these things. It is important for a scared animal to overcome their fears in a safe environment because they will gain confidence in the process.
Maybe to make your mom more into though and not get so mad about it is to make it a "training" process. Use treats so that she gets positive enforcement and your mom can see that. Or look into clicker training. I have known a few horse abuse cases that clicker training has really helped and then you have a something to stand on with your mom. You mom would see it as a more formal training that she has probably seen it in movies and PetSmart uses it so it might take the fighting out. Be careful about feeding too many treats though because it could cause an insulin resistance or make your mare nippy, but you sound like you know what she needs.
Your right and sounds like you are doing a good job with her. I just thought that might be an idea to make it easier with your mom.
Source(s): experience and a random idea - zakiitLv 79 years ago
I think that there is a lot to be said for spending time with a sensitive horse, introducing it to things that are scary! Of course at first they will not like it, until they get the message that it will not hurt them. Some are more sensitive around their head and it is not necessarily to do with abuse. Like some humans, some horses are more sensitive because of the number of nerve endings in the face! It like some horses (and humans) are ticklish. And of course the hearing of a horse is far more sensitive than humans and if you think about some sounds that you do not like - such as someone scraping their nails down a blackboard or something like that, then you will understand how a horse feels about certain sounds, but many will calm down with desensitisation. Rewards, kind words or pats or scratches on their favourite scratching parts all go towards this process. Reward any kind of bravery. If there is something she is scared of - for example a tarpaulin on the ground, walk her around it at a distance and gradually move in towards it and make a big fuss of her if she so much as puts one foot on it, and progress to walking right over it. It is a bit of a lengthy process but it is a good way of teaching a horse not to be scared of something. Try to find some video footage of how the mounted police train their horses.
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- Megan and Lady.Lv 59 years ago
Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't think your mum knows much about this kind of thing.
Horses are prey animals and are scared of a lot of things. In order for you to be safe around them and to have a healthy level of trust, you need to get them used to as many things as possible. What you are doing is absolutely correct. If you DIDN'T get her used to it, not only could it lead to issues later on, but it would make her more afraid of those things, because you would be taking away the scary object while she is afraid, essentially rewarding the behaviour.
- PeaBeeLv 69 years ago
Everyone has already reinforced your method.
Let me address how to educate your mom.
That is really your issue, here.
Just last week my 83 year old father got a new laptop. He couldn't get his email working. I am helping him long distance. No matter what I told him, he fiddled around and went his own way and lost the page I was trying to set him up on. Some tech guy actually hung up on him, so you know how frustrating he was.
In order to keep my patience, I keep telling myself that this is the man that spent weeks running along my 2 wheel bicycle to keep me balanced until I learned to ride alone when I was 8.
So that is your mission. What has your mother done that demonstrates extreme, long term patience that finally achieved results? Now you take that comparison and tell your mom that this method of working your horse is like what she did that finally achieved results. Did she help you night after night with reading books or math? How long did it take to potty train you or your siblings? Find something to compare and use it. Draw the comparison so she can get why you are doing it slowly and with consistency.
- ?Lv 59 years ago
No offense, your mom is wacky. That's perfectly fine, many MANY people desensitize that way. When you were a kid, if you were scared of the dark, eventually, you went out into the dark and realized that it wasn't going to hurt you, right? You're just helping her move past her fear of the jingling keys.
- Anonymous5 years ago
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- Anonymous9 years ago
she could of had a rough past with a harsh rider. what you are doing is correct, you are showing her that they will not hurt her and you are not torturing her.
- 9 years ago
you are not wrong at all. let your mom nag, she'll get over it when you have a nice calm horse.