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Should Diane Abbott resign as MP?

Following the furore over her tweet "White people love playing divide and rule. We should not play their game" - should Diane Abbot resign?

1) This could be taken as racist, since it is making a generalisation about a group of people based on their race - not all white people "love playing divide and rule".

2) Yet Diane Abbott herself said that it had been taken "out of context" and was referring to the history of British colonialism, "which is a bit much to get into 140 characters".

I think it was foolish of her to try to reduce a complex historical issue, i.e. racism to a single tweet. However, I do not think this is racist, because the dominant ideology of capitalism has always been "divide and rule" - in this case a reference to the "black community" made by a white journalist. Diane Abbott is correct, I think, in criticising this position - it is made by someone outside a specific community, with no first-hand knowledge of institutionalised racism. However, she acknwoledged that she did put this rather crudely and followed her tweet up with an explanation. Still, her basic premise is largely correct - throughout history white people have played "divide and rule" in order to exploit and rule other races.

I think the MP should apologise and this was a foolish use of twitter, but I do not think it is a resigning matter, and she did have a valid point, even if it was phrased badly. What do you think?

Update:

Edit- I am not a member of the Labour Party and do not support Diane Abbott politically. I think if she had any principles, she would not send her children to a private school. However, I do offer some support to her in this instance - I think her statement has been jumped on rather unfairly by Tory MPs eager to score a political point.

Update 2:

Back to the drawing board - interesting points. The Labour Party supports independent schools and privatisation of education through academies. The party I belong to (the Socialist Party) would scrap private education altogether and use the resources in the private education system to improve education for everybody, not just those who can afford it. Equally, I don't think MPs should be on the sort of wage where they can choose private healthcare / education - they should be on the same wage as the people they represent, that way they would fight all the harder for improvements for the working class (the vast majority of people in Britain) who have to make ends meet. I am critical of Abbott because as a self-professed left-winger, she should have socialist principles. These have been sold out by her being part of New Labour.

On the issue of whether she should resign, it sounds like she suffers from foot-in-mouth syndrome, but I still don't think she should have to resign.

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  • 9 years ago
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    I think we should take the opportunity to assess it in its context. This is what some people (Black, Asians, Latinos) born and bred in the UK feel about their own country. There is huge mistrust, there is a feeling of isolation, there is this idea that we are all painted with a broad brush, and I have had people tell me that we (foreigners: which entails non-caucasians and people from eastern europe) are taking their jobs.The term white man doesn't necessarily refer to every caucasian in Britain but it refers to the establishment and how racism has been institutionalised in this country.

    Example, mark duggan, accused of trying to shoot a policeman which was not true, and then whiles there was a vigil, cops ignore it because they want the press to garner public opinion against an unarmed victim of murder. The same thing was done with the innocent man Jean Charles de Menezes who did nothing wrong and never run from police like they have made the whole country believe. Someone explain to me how Evra became the dodgy character when he was actually the victim of racial abuse? Now Cameron wants to remove human rights law just to deport less than 400 ex convicts. MP Abbot didn't say that they like to divide and rule black people, the tweet said divide and rule. They trick everyone into believing that britains main problem is about 400 ex-convicts who are foreigners, the public just turns on each other and guess what, they are willing to throw away their human rights. That is divide and rule. Diane Abbot was spot on.

    In the mean time, the gov't (Torries) will continue to shore up their banker friends, bomb Libya to help their oil investor buddies with loads of our money while cutting the budgets, closing down nursing homes and community centres, raise fees, raise taxes on middle class and cut down corporate taxes for their donors. There was a reason why Andy Coulson was at 10 Downing Street. Diane was right and in the end, the public are the loosers

  • 9 years ago

    The fact is Diane Abbott has been racially inflammatory before and her inflammatory views have been publicly known for a long time. This recent exposure is just more of the same. I don't think she should resign for the reason that her position on white people has been made public before. If she loses the whip now why not when she questioned the ability of blue eyed and blonde female Finnish nurses caring for black people?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/324794...

    note: I edited my answer as it could easily be argued that Diane Abott is simply ignorant and not racist. Although, if similar comments were made by a white man or woman about black people, I doubt if anyone would give them the benefit of the doubt.

  • I basically agree with you, she should not have to resign over a Tweet, but not over sending her son to a private school.

    The Labour party as far as I know has never campaigned for independent schools to be outlawed and all education put under state control, although they support investment in and improvement of state education, but it doesn't always get up to scratch especially in areas like Hackney where Diane Abbot lives.

    Diane Abbot was just doing what any parent financially able to would have done, picking the most suitable school for her son from the range of both state and independent, and it was the one he wanted to go to himself, remember he was an only child, no brothers or sisters to help ease him into the school culture, divorced mum, father not around all the time, and as the MPs son I don't see him having had an easy time in a Hackney comprehensive.

    In a way I admire Diane Abbot for putting the well being of her son first and not sacrificing him to political principles.

    And if we still want to talk about principles I wonder how many other Labour MPs have sent their children to fee paying schools and not received the vilification Diane Abbot did, at risk of sounding like the woman herself and saying 'because they are white males' - or they didn't need to because they were lucky enough to live in catchment areas with better state schools, often outside their constituencies.

  • 9 years ago

    She is just ONE 'BIG' racist bigoted hypocrite, and she has the gall to tell us that the rest of us are the racists. She reckons that Black Mums love their kids more than white Mums, and she also wants to make Britain weaker by scrapping Britain's nuclear deterrent and leaving us therefore powerless to defend ourselves against nuclear armed N Korea and Iran after 13 years of Liebour has left us cutback and weakened with so few conventional troops. ships and planes.

    Her latest statement about "White people love playing divide and rule.....ect" is just a typical racist and bigoted comment that she makes. We can just turn that around for a moment and say "BLACK people love playing divide and rule....... ect", then just you see black people will be calling us all the bastds under the Sun. So it'll be alright for her to say it but not we!

    It's time that common sense prevailed and the BS PC in British politics was thrown out. Politicians, although human and bound to make the 'odd' mistake, they should be seen as virtually perfect and without blemish.... they should set a good example, not this cowardly PC BS, and bandying words on silly social networking sites like TWITTER, as if politics is like some kind of cheap and tacky soap opera.

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  • 9 years ago

    Diane has been resigned for years - to staying in the Labour Party, which has deserted her beliefs since Tony B. Liar hijacked the party. So I don't think she needs to do any more resigning.

    Source(s): Viva L'Abbott
  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Is what she said so wrong.The conservatives, mostly white ,have divided the people,to rule.They have used the media to blame pensioners for living too long and the unemployed for the governments inability to stop tax loopholes for the rich,stop banks and big business from moving billions of untaxed money to offshore accounts and obscene wages for public paid employees.

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    9 years ago

    she is an accurate representation of her constituents - which is what matters. i wouldnt want her as my M.P. ( im 'middle england') i think she is a case of 'what u see is what u get' which in general is what i like. i think multi culturalism has a real place and value, especially in todays globalised world. but i still want england to be england. i dont think she or her views threatens that. so no i dont think she has a case to answer - yet.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Would anyone notice?

  • 9 years ago

    I dont think she needs to anyways

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    she has said racist things before and been let off the hook

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5uMbMJ2EUQ

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