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Is Jesus going to Hell (permanently)?

I hear over and over again about those who accepted Jesus as the 'Savior', are the ones guaranteed a free ticket to Heaven.

But, since Jesus never preached to anyone about him being a "Savior", or a blood atonement/sacrifice for sins.....that means that Jesus never accepted himself has Savior of mankind, since logically, he never conceived that idea in the first place.

I've read the Gospels, word by word, page-to-page...and never found any sayings of Jesus being a sacrificial lamb.

I know that 'good' people go to Heaven, without a doubt! But Jesus said that 'He wasn't good'. Only GOD is the One that is good. And this isn't the same as saying: "I'm not good, but other 'me' is good'. That would make Jesus a schizophrenic, or someone suffering from multiple personality disorder. That I cannot believe.

Yes, I'm aware of the epistles of Paul saying that he is the "Savior"....but that is Paul speaking out of opinion. Those weren't the words of Jesus. I even had my professor in Theological Seminar confirm the literary analysis that Jesus didn't write or speak in the epistles...JUST only the Gospels. Therefore, I'm only concerned on what Jesus himself had spoken, NOT someone else making his/her own interpretations.

And do people go to Heaven, according to their good works/deeds, abiding by the Law? As Jesus has taught and proclaimed?

Or just only having faith and not following the Law? As Paul of Tarsus has proclaimed?

So, Jesus didn't know what he was talking about, or Paul had to correct Jesus, because Jesus had it all wrong.

I'm not sure who was more correct about the teachings of Jesus; Paul or Jesus? Since Paul ordained his own philosophy as the 'true' teachings...that means that what Jesus had taught were not accurate; therefore Paul corrected Jesus.

QUESTION: He did visit Hell, so I am making this question more clarified. So....is Jesus going to Hell, permanently?

This is just a tip of the iceberg on many confusing statements made in the NT.

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NOTE:

Please...no need to post Bible verses---either for sources or proselytizing---I'm well-aware of the Book(s) with full content knowledge. I'll suffice without it, there is no need. I have several versions at hand as it is; my prominent source is the one written in Greek.

I need logical answers, from actual sources; NOT anyone speaking of their own opinions and desires.

--I know that 99% of you are not Christian scholars, so don't act like your a scholar and prophet.

--I know that 80% of you don't even read the Bible entirely, those who only chooses daily verses to tailor their own flaunting ideas; I am wanting people who actually are knowledgeable of the NT.

IF anyone's answer contradicts the next fellow's answer...then I beginning to smell fraud...and that the 'wannabe' scholars are here infiltrating my question; disrespecting and disregarding my humble request. It is a real religion that shares the same common idea, and don't contradict teachings, nor have millions of denominations just because they 'think' that they have answer. Then that would totally deter any person who is curious about become Christian. IF Christians cannot agree with each other, regardless of denominations (you all have the same Book!), then Christians themselves don't even know what the reality is, it'll be based off of opinions only, no facts.

So...are any of you willing to deter me away from Christianity, or establish a real logical standing on your belief, so that I can welcome Christianity for me, with valid and sturdy enthusiasm.

Update:

I never read the Bible? How quaint!

In reality, this inquiry isn't for me. It's for all of you! I want to see how many of you perceive the scriptures. It is to get you people to think! I've already obtained my bachelor degree in theology...I'm in school for my Master degree in western religion. All this, just so I can become a scholar in Abrahamic religions (Judaeo-Islamic and Christian religions and literature)

I want educated people to answer this, because at least we are on the same level. I cannot question a 6-year old about quantum physics, can I? Well I can, I just won't get an intelligent answer.

Update 2:

Interesting so far!

A few people who are already haters! Do many of you really piss on the people that are curious about the concepts of Christianity? No wonder you all are not getting converts, you're scaring them away with hatred and hypocrisy! I'm a Qara'i Jew who just wants to grasp an understanding of Christianity, not get smart remarks in return. Is that how you carry yourselves daily?

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago
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    how the heck is Jesus(pbuh) going to hell o.O

  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    First off, no one goes to heaven without Christ blood. No matter how great of a man you think you are. Your still destined to hell. Even when you were born, you were born into sin. And yes they're many different opinions in the Protestant church today. I'm reformed baptize and disagree with a Lutheran in certain things like the LORD'S supper or baptism.  But I still see them as brother in Christ but its totally different if we or they say that Christ isn't the Son of God then theirs something wrong. God also tells us the more we knew about the sciptures the more he will judge us on how use them in this life. We should never use the knowledge of the scriptures as weopon to destroy others but use it as tool build other up others and ultimately to further Christ Kingdom.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Allah killed Mohamed to show he wasn’t a true prophet & he also brought him to shame.

    Qur’an 69:44-46—And if he (Mohamed) had forged a false saying concerning Us We surely should have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might), and then certainly should have CUT OFF HIS LIFE ARTERY (AORTA). (Hilali-Khan)

    Qur’an 69:44-46—And if he had fabricated against Us some of the sayings, We would certainly have seized him by the right hand, then We would certainly have CUT OFF HIS AORTA. (Shakir)

    Tafsir Jalalayn on Qur’an 69:44-46—And had he, namely, the Prophet (s), fabricated any lies against Us, by communicating from Us that which We have not said, We would have assuredly seized him, We would have exacted vengeance [against him], as punishment, by the Right Hand, by [Our] strength and power; then WE WOULD HAVE ASSUREDLY SEVERED HIS LIFE-ARTERY, THE AORTA OF THE HEART, A VEIN THAT CONNECTS WITH IT, AND WHICH IF SEVERED RESULTS IN THAT PERSON'S DEATH.

    Mohamed wanted to die in the cause of Allah.

    Sahih al-Bukhari 2797—The Prophet said, . . “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is! I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then come back to life and then get martyred, and then come back to life again and then get martyred and then come back to life again and then get martyred.”

    But that is not what he got a Jewish woman poisoned him. Mohamed inflicted a lot of torture to the Jews and Jewess Zaynab's family was not spared by Mohammad. And secondly, Mohammad called women deficient in intelligence.

    But here we have a Jewish woman who poisoned Mohamed. Allah allowed a Jewish woman to poison Mohammad. Thus bringing Mohammad to shame disgrace and humiliating him.

    Let's see what Mohammad says after he has had the poison.

    Sahih al-Bukhari 4428—The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, “O Aishah! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I FEEL AS IF MY AORTA IS BEING CUT FROM THAT POISON"

    Sunan Abu Dawud 4449—Umm Bishr said to the Prophet during the sickness of which he died: What do you think about your illness, Apostle of Allah? I do not think about the illness of my son except the poisoned sheep of which he had eaten with you at Khaibar. The Prophet said: And I do not think about my illness except that. THIS IS THE TIME WHEN IT CUT OFF MY AORTA.

    According to Qur'an 69:44-46, if Muhammad were a false prophet, Allah would sever his aorta. Interestingly, when Muhammad died, he said he could feel his sorta being severed.

    So we have Allah who not only severed Mohammad's aorta but added to his degradation by making him die at the hands of a Jewish Woman.

    To conclude: Nothing what I have said about Mohammad comes any where near what Allah says about Mohammad. If you take all the human insults towards Mohammad like the Danish cartoons, the Satanic verses etc & roll it up into a big ball even then it comes no where close to what Allah did to insult Mohammad by severing his aorta. Allah is Mohammad's biggest critic.

    Source(s): Now are you Muslims going to run around screaming that Allah is an islamophobic bigot because he insulted Mohammad? Or are you going to accept correction from the Almighty? Islam means submission. Muslims think it means submission to Allah but Allah has already given his answer. He commands you to reject Mohammad. If you continue believing in Mohammad, what you are really saying is Allah cannot make me stop believing in Mohammad I don't care what Allah says I will believe in Mohammad anyway. But in that case Islam isn't submission to Allah but to Mohammad.
  • 9 years ago

    With every thing you know 99% this 80%that you got it all.o and humble your so much more .

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  • ?
    Lv 5
    9 years ago

    It's obvious you haven't actually read the bible at all.

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