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About angels and men...?
if the original man and woman (adam and Eve) as asserted by the christians were perfect in eden, did angels exist at that time?
are angels better than humans? if yes, are they better than adam and eve?
and lastly, how can adam and eve be the perfect being if there's angels around? and how can there be angels be the perfect beings if there's serraphins around?
so, which one is perfect during the time in eden?
and if lucifer was a fallen angel, does that mean he's perfect too?
@Mikey: and yet they insists it;s the chiristian truth....go figure...lol.
@Eagle Eye: If angels are lower than man....then does it mean being angelic is basically saying u're more worthless than men?
@Wyatt: how can angels be lower than man, and yet more perfect than man? hmmm???
clarifications: so you see my christians friends....even some simple questions like this can throw up a good panerphilia of different answers...why then do u persist in such..."faiths"?
nice :)
Thank you Mina...my thoughts exactly.
6 Answers
- Anonymous9 years agoFavorite Answer
Khm, you do realise, you are talking about fairytales, right?
So, Angels did exist befor Adam and Eve, but are not better since they have no free will to choose. Adam and Eve were never perfect, because they were humans, nothing more. The only one perfect in this religious limonade was god and god alone. As for Lucifer, he became this cosmological bad guy only in the middle ages, because church said so. Before (in the old testament, that is) Luc was gods servant, his own devils advocate, so to say. And he is not perfect either, since he, like the rest of them, doesn't exist...
- plannerLv 79 years ago
yes angels were around way before adam and eve were created.
who said adam and eve were perfect? adam and eve were created in God's image, but an image is not as perfect as the real thing. when we look into a mirror and see an image, it is not exactly like the real thing...but only a reflection of the real thing.
the bible says that man was created a little lower than the angels so the angels are better or above man in the ladder of God's creation.
lucifer was perfect until he rebelled against God. then he and those angels who followed him were cast out of heaven down to the earth and became satan and his demons.
- 9 years ago
It never said they were perfect, they were really really stupid and did exactly what God said not to, angels have existed since time began according to Scriptures, if you go to heaven you become an angel I think and there are some from the beginning, but basically they live in the badassness of heaven (the ultimate paradise) every day and chill in the clouds with Jesus and Buddha
Angels aren't effect, according to the Bible, the only perfect being is God, they're just more perfect than humans
- Anonymous9 years ago
Think for a nano second it won't hurt any i promise! If a real god, not a man made god, existed it wouldn't care about little human specs on an island in his vast domain! The only reason we believe in any gods or devils is because of constant proper inculcation by friends, relatives, community, and religion from womb til adult hood! (or any time span in between) Brainwashing has been used extensively since the shepherds showed religion how they kept their flocks from wandering! Why do you think religions refer to their congregations as flocks!Sheep are very easily brainwashed so they figured it would be just as easy on humans and to their surprise it was easier if done properly over time! So i know you have been thinking now for a long time so good day!
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- Eagle EyeLv 59 years ago
Of course angels existed from the beginning. They are messengers of God, whether they bring goods news or bad. A fallen angel is hardly perfect now, wouldn't you say? Remember angels are lower than man per God's word.
- Anonymous9 years ago
http://satanslibrary.webs.com/Origins_of_Satanism....
This excerpt quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia is very revealing:
In the same way the Greeks and Romans may have worshipped their divinities, fondly believing them to be good. But the Christian Scriptures declare that all the gods of the Gentiles are demons.
Catholic Encyclopedia: Devil Worship
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04767a.h%E2%80%A6
DEMONS ARE THE GODS OF THE GENTILES!!!!
Satanism is not a Christian invention
Satanism predates Christianity and all other religions
Satanism is not about "evil"
Satanism is not about death
True Satanism is about elevating and empowering humanity to reach equality with the Gods, which was our True Creator (Satan's) intention
"IN THE SECRET OF MY KNOWLEDGE THERE IS NO GOD BUT ME"
-SATAN
From "Peace Be Unto Him"
Due to centuries of misinformation, lies, and the systematic removal of knowledge, few people these days understand or even know what “Satanism” really is all about.
Christianity has been at liberty to dictate without any opposition, what they CLAIM Satanism to be. In order to accomplish this, the truth had to be destroyed. The Catholic Church (the original Christian Church, from which all Christian sects have evolved), heinously tortured to death and mass-murdered millions of innocent men, women and children in what was known as "The Inquisition." Some children who were burnt to death in what were known as "witch houses" were as young as two years of age.
Christians forever rant and rave concerning the "one world order" where all identities, cultures, personal privacies, and liberties will be lost and humanity, after being systematically bar-coded, will be lumped into a one-world slave state. What they fail to see is how their own so-called "religion" and bible have always been and are the roots of and blueprint for this regime. Everything in the Judeo/Christian Bible has been stolen and corrupted from religions predating Judaism, Christianity, and Islam from hundreds to thousands of years. Through Judaism and its tool of Christianity, all of the original spiritual teachings from around the world, (which are CONCEPTS) have been stolen from, lumped together into the "one," and corrupted into Jewish archetypes and characters and fictitious places. This has given the Jewish people as a whole a false history, political power and "spiritual" authority to which they are not entitled.
The bible is a very powerful subliminal tool to control the masses. One can see this is a man-made work as there are endless contradictions. The bible has been systematically drummed into the minds of the populace from a very early age. A lie must always be enforced as opposed to the truth which can stand on its own. Because spiritual knowledge and occult power have been removed and kept in the hands of a "chosen" few, the unknowing populace has been helpless against it. The agenda here is to create a one-world slave state with the "chosen" few ruling at the top. The perpetrators of course blame Satan to create a necessary distraction, while they use occult power to accomplish their ends. They have a history of stealing from and blaming their enemies for everything they really are and do, while always holding themselves in the highest esteem and innocence.
The original religions now known as "Satanism" (by the way, "Satan" means "enemy" in Hebrew), were all based upon what is known as the "Magnum Opus" or Great Work. The one known as "Satan" is our True Creator God. He was prevented by the other Gods from finishing his work on humanity, that of the godhead. The godhead is physical and spiritual perfection. Now, if you continue to read on, I will prove this.
The serpent is seen everywhere in ancient relics and structures. The serpent was held sacred in all areas of the ancient world. Satan is the God Ea, aka ENKI, one of the first of the Nephilim to arrive on this planet and establish the first civilization. In Sumerian mythology, Enki's symbol was always the serpent.
The serpent represents the DNA, the life force and the kundalini and has survived as the emblem of the American Medical Association and Veterinary medicine, where it is symbolic of life and healing. Only with the coming of Judeo/Christianity, has this sacred symbol been desecrated and blasphemed.
Nearly all of us are familiar with the term "fallen." This word has been used copiously by Christian clergy to refer to Satan and his Demons. In truth, "fallen" pertains to the kundalini serpent (which has always been associated with our Creator God Satan), which has fallen in humanity as a whole and now lies dormant at the base of the spine. Because of this, humanity as a whole is on a very low level of spiritual understanding. Thoughtless abuses of children and animals, senseless wars, brutality and endless corruption are the results of the fallen serpent.....