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IRS took son's refund because of SSI overpayment?

My son who will be 21 this yr. recieved ssi checks that were made payable to his payee who at the time was a friend. She was cashing his checks and after a few months she kicked him out. He came to live with me and about a yr. later I tried to apply for him since he was going to be 18. I was informed by the ssa that the last payment was returned a few month earlier. I then told them that he had been living with me for almost a yr. And that he hadnt been recieving any benefits. I was so upset that she never reportrd the change and had been cashing the checks for her own benefit that I reported it online,i called ssa and when my son went to apply for himself I gave them all the info I had. Now ssa is charging my son an overpmt. Of 6,000. I have argued with these ppl several times and filled out paperwork made an appeal and the wont do anything about it. Ive furnished them with her name, dates. phone#, address everything

I had at the time. Ive spoken to them and yhey said not to worry about it it was not his debt. Now they say they have no proof of anything I have submitted. I kept telling them that I reported the fraud and my son lived with me during the time she recieved the checks. They want proof that he didnt benefit from those payments. Dont know what to do. They want my son to make payment arrangements on a debt that was not his. I need some good advise as to what to do. The only yhing I have to show proof is his employment records showing the yr. In question that he was living with me. Somehow I dont think this will be enough. Please help...anyone

Update:

Judith...my son who was 16 at the time, lived with a male friend and his mother. He did not want to live with me cause he was getting into too much trouble in school. So after talking with his friends mom a person I knew we agreed that he would stay with her and try to finish the schol yr. Sbhe ecame his payee. She kicked him out a few months later and I flew him back home with me. Yes my fault for not reporting it. I thought she did. I didnt apply for him myself because of our income was to high so he waited till he was 18 to apply forhimself I spoke to the ss rep. About an appl. For him and looking into his records they mentioned his last check was returned. I told her he hadnt recieved any checks in months. And he had been living with me.Thats how I found out about it. after talking with the ss rep. I made an online report and went to our local office and spoke to them also.

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  • Judith
    Lv 7
    9 years ago
    Favorite Answer

    Can't help you without knowing the reason for the overpayment. Was he overpaid because he worked and earned too much and didn't report it? Even though he had a payee it was his responsibility to report any event which would cause an overpayment.

    To be quite honest, I find it hard to believe that he would be living with you for a year without him or you contacting social security to file to be his payee or not receiving the benefits. Unless you can prove it, they have no option but to assume that your son benefited from the payments which were being made. I find your allegation pretty hard to believe.

    It would be a rare person indeed who no longer lived with a girlfriend but continued to let her receive the checks on his behalf. Most people would be contacting social security immediately and screaming bloody murder that someone was getting their checks who shouldn't have been. It wasn't up to the girlfriend to report that he moved out. You or your son should have contacted social security to file to be his payee.

    It isn't up to Social Security to prove where your son lived or whether or not he benefited from the payments. It is up to your son to prove otherwise. Even if you can prove that he didn't live with his payee that doesn't mean that his payee kept the money for herself. The overpayment will still exist and must be paid back if it can't be waived because he was not at fault in having caused it and they will receive any IRS refunds until it is paid back. Of course, he can always make arrangements to pay it back in monthly installments if he can't prove that he was without fault in having caused the overpayment in the first place and that he didn't receive the benefits.

    I know this isn't the answer you wanted to hear. I suggest that you consider getting an attorney because you really need one.

    Source(s): I was a social security claims rep for 32 years.
  • ?
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Easy Come, Easy Go? Nice while it lasted? I'm not sure of the proper response.

    Missing so much information....Why is he receiving SSI checks? Why would a "friend" be a payee and not him?

    Why wasn't this brought up the Day he was "kicked out" by the Payee?

    I really hope you know that I am compassionate for anyone really needing assistance, but you see SO Many folks that are Bilking the System, looking for help to learn NEW WAYS to get more for free, so we get JADED and Weary.

    More information would help with a good answer, other than my cynical response.

  • 5 years ago

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