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? asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 9 years ago

Yet another Briton is extradited to USA instead of facing trial here, when Is Cameron going to do something?

Today Christopher Tappin is being extradited to Texas from Heathrow airport by US marshals on the charge of selling batteries that could be used in Iranian missiles. He may be jailed for 35 years in the USA.

The question is, why isn't he being charged in the UK? What gives the USA the right to collect foreign nationals from around the world, who committed their crimes on foreign soil to stand trial in the USA?

This follows similar high profile cases like the Natwest three, Gary McKinnon and recently the young lad who was extradited for copyright infringement on a website aswell as others.

Can you imagine the UK requesting similar extraditions from the USA? They'd just laugh, so when is Cameron going to stand up for British nationals and stop this injustice?

Commit the crime in the UK get tried in the UK, is that unreasonable?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-171464...

Update:

"Yes, and they happen. And you know what? Not a single extradition request by the UK to the US under this treaty has been rejected. Not one."

Incorrect. You will not be able to produce a similar case where somebody was extradited from the USA to the UK. If an American murders somebody before flying back to New York it's only right they should be dragged back to stand trial over here, but what about US based computer hackers or website hosts? Have they ever been extradited to the UK? NO.

Update 2:

"Seemingly the whole World is under US of A laws."

Seems that way doesn't it? Quite scary that you can run a website from your home in Somerset and all of a sudden find yourself in a Texas jail, just who do they think they are?

Kit Fang you're spot on, funny thing is both the Conservatives and Liberals promised to tackle this problem, yet here we are 2 years on and nothing has changed, they should hang their heads in shame.

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  • 9 years ago

    I agree that this is disgraceful. What I think is even worse is that the man will not get a fair trial in the USA - the very thing Abu Qatada was denied deportation for. He won't get a fair trial because the USA has already told him that his witnesses - who cannot appear in person in the USA due to the costs involved and illness - cannot appear via video link. So Mr. Tappin is essentially being banned from bringing evidence to help him fight the charges.

    I also fail to see why he cannot be tried in the UK - the US has produced no evidence, yet to extradite an American citizen, the UK government has to provide all sorts of evidence that there is a case against the accused. The treaty is unfair, and the same terms should apply to both countries.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    How was he selling the batteries. If he was using the internet and an American domain then I could see the argument for jurisdiction. But I don't understand why Cameron would allow one of his citizens to be extradited all the way over here.

  • Alan
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    It amazes me that according to British law, no one can be extradited from Britain to a country that has the death penalty on its list of punishments, hence the reason why we cannot extradite the Muslim cleric to Jordan. Yet this rule seems to be overlooked when it comes to America. Perhaps if the criminal had committed murder and was in danger of getting the death penalty, then the extradition would never take place and they would be tried and sent to jail in the UK. I do however believe that anyone who commits a crime abroad should face the trial in that country, and not plead with the British authorities to be tried in the UK. The only reason people who commit crimes abroad want the trial in the UK is because UK jails are considerably more lenient than jails overseas.

  • ?
    Lv 6
    9 years ago

    Cameron sold his independence and freedom to the US President. He sits at the right hand of his Master, at the President's feet.

    He would do any thing to ensure he is the one stroked by the president. Therefore, he would not do any thing to offend the US President by saying "No" to the President's request to have a UK citizen extradited to the USA.

    As Del boy would say, What a PLONKER!

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    The big testing time will be when a judgement on Abu Hamsa's extradition is given.

    Then we will see if there is a law for alleged terrorists and a law for alleged wrong doing businessmen.

    Remember another important point that often seems to be forgotten.

    British politicians look years in front to the end game when their political 'life is finished.They 'lay it on thick' to please the Americans in their political lifetime!Why? To get on the American lecture circuit at 1 million pounds sterling a time.

    A man's freedom has got nothing to do with it as far as they are concerned.

    Just ask Tony Blaire!

    Another point. Where is Shami Chakrabarti and her 'rent a a crowd' of so called impartial do goodies?

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Even if a crime were committed, it was not in the US, so they have no right of extradition, so, I agree, why do our courts allow it to happen?

    Potentialy they could extradite every in prison. Now that would save us a lot of money.

  • 9 years ago

    "Can you imagine the UK requesting similar extraditions from the USA?"

    Yes, and they happen. And you know what? Not a single extradition request by the UK to the US under this treaty has been rejected. Not one.

    You need something new to whine about.

  • 9 years ago

    Robert C has made the point. All this proves if prove was needed what a lot of dummies we seem to be getting in running this country. We kneel down to everyone, regardless, but have no time or justice for our own. This apparently was an FBI "sting", the words that should have been used was an FBI "stink"

  • 9 years ago

    He has 'done something', he has rubbed his hands at the thought of another dollar draft into his account in the Caymans. Same goes for all our Quisling political caste, irrespective of party.

    We need to end the so-called special relationship and put the collaborators on trial for treason.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    it's obvious this extradition law has to be repealed. British citizens should not be subject to US laws.

    It's about time the British people demanded change.

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