Why would you be against a more cost efficient health care system like single payer?

I'm not against it. It would relieve employers of having to directly provide health insurance to employees. It would also save a lot, as you point out, in administrative costs. It is a sensible approach to health care.

I think however that individuals should still be able to purchase any additional coverage that they believe necessary and be able to pay for directly for medical care.

that's a great BS. Could it be that those other countries are limiting there health care?

The financing is supported by employers, employee contributions, and personal income taxes. The working population has twenty percent of their gross salary deducted at source to fund the social security system.

that is 12% more than were paying now? They still have to purchase health insurance in addition to there taxes. Does not sound so great to me.

About seventy five percent of the total health expenditures are covered by the public health insurance system. A part of the balance is paid directly by the patients and the other part by private health insurance companies that are hired individually or in group (assurance complémentaire or mutuelle, complementary insurance or mutual fund).

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The 47 million uninsured is not the fault of Americans and I have no idea were you get that number from!!! Even those who career is welfare are insured thanks to taxpayers!!

If your talking about ILLEGALS, the word should give you a hint! Even they are covered thanks to the taxpayers!!!!

Everyone is covered! Coverage differs between those that buy their own policy and those who have their coverage paid by taxpayers!!

ps. - instead of worrying about what some other country does, give a care about your own country!! America is not france or mexico or ussr or england or any other country!!!

This is like fighting between fans of the Yankees and Red Sox. Facts are not going to sway opinions.

The Affordable Care Act is here to stay. Only loss of the presidency, House and a super majority in the Senate could overturn it. And, that's not going to happen. Plus, many aspects of ACA are already implemented and they are very popular. Many on the right hinge their hopes on the SCOTUS to overturn it. Worse case, the mandate gets overturned.

Judging by the disillusionment of America about the Republicans that are In office and those that are running, I am pretty confident that the Dems will be in a position by next Jan to strengthen ACA to a point where it;s here FOREVER.

Ok, so let's do single payer food too.

Let's do single payer housing, single payer water, single payer clothing, single payer employment, single payer entertainment, etc. Let's do everything in a single payer system, that would be most efficient right? Why stop at efficient health care, and not do efficient food, shelter, etc.?

Slavery is efficient, that does not mean it is something we should do or encourage. Freedom is more important and valuable than efficiency.

There are not 47 million without health care. Thousands do not die because of health care bills and thousands do not go bankrupt over health care bills. These are the kind of statements made on MSNBC and have no merit.

Medicare is a single-payer system and it's neither very cost efficient nor does it provide especially good service.

Come back if/when you get the bugs worked out of Medicare.

The fact that the system is currently terrible does not mean that what you euphemistically call "single payer" would be a good thing.

You have presented a false dichotomy.

"Single payer is proven to be cost efficient and higher quality so i don't want to hear fiscal cons saying "its too expensive""

What a crock of sh!t. Proven my @ss. All it is proven to be is a disastrously inefficient system that patrons cannot wait to escape. If it is so efficient and high quality, why does it always turn into a rationing system where people who could otherwise afford the cost are forced to wait months or years for critical procedures?

If you eliminate the profit in the health care insurance industry you eliminate the dividends the ultra-wealthy are living off of. With a single payer system the wealthy would have to get a job. Oh, the horror!