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What is wrong with Christ's message?
Christ taught of love and the brotherhood of all men. Can someone please explain to me why so many atheists would find such a message so reprehensible that they feel they must vilify any Christian who wishes to live by that message? Is it simply the "Me-Me-Me" generation who cannot think of anyone other than themselves, and therefore must attack anything that's points to a more selfless way of action?
McKay: So... you agree with the message of love and the brotherhood of man? Are you living by it? Judging by the fact that you avoided what was asked it seems doubtful.
SK: If you think He taught anything different you haven't read the New Testament. Grow up please.
Kap: Another dodge. Not a single legitimate historian agrees with you.
Joshua: Another non-answer which supports my point. Also, do you have any clue at all what the "straw-man fallacy" is, or do you just like repeating words that you heard?
Brad: The fact that other religions preach the same is not denied. What you overlooked however is that you did not answer the question. What is wrong with the message? If there is nothing wrong with it, why do so many attack it if not for them being opposed to a message that has them think of others rather than themselves?
Angela: So then could you please explain to me why Christians are always the #1 in contributions to human disasters and suffering, while atheists as a group are at the bottom?
Smoking: That fact that you do not understand what the passage means is no surprise. You should read the NT for its message .... not the occasional line you can take out of context to mean something else.
Tommie: I am seeing that right here.... not one legitimate answer so far.... just a bunch running to hide.
Manof: Another dodge. Answer the question. I was taking about Christ message of love. What do you find reprehensible about that?
Blaise: Wow.... I haven't a clue what you have been reading. But do yourself a favor, rather than relying on atheistic claptrap for your information on Christianity, why do you not just read the New Testament.
Uncle: Sorry, but what I wrote to Blaise above you applies to you as well. Read Paul in the order which he wrote his letters rather than the order in the Bible and you will see his developing theology.
Pastors: Agreed. It is sort of ironic that atheists who are fond of telling people how much atheism has grown are completely unaware that it is a fulfillment of Biblical prophesy.
Maurog: A complete dodge of the question by pointing to something else. And sorry... you are completely misinterpreting the passages you cited. He did not tell people to pick up the sword nor to hate, but what would happen as a result of living by his message. And if you want His message read the Beatitudes, the Parable of the Good Samaritan, His two great commandments, His Golden Rule.
Amy: A complete dodge of the question asked.
Thor: Before you criticize something or someone you should have at least a single clue about what you are talking about. You are speaking nonsense.
spliff: A complete dodge of the quesiton asked. What someone else does or does not do does not leave YOU off the hook of doing what is right.
E: I have no idea what Bible you are reading but it is not the Christian one. "Love your neighbor as yourself" "Do good to those who persecute you", etc. is not "love by obedience".
Jordan: Do you understand what the word "fulfill" means? Do you understand what He meant by "until all things have taken place"? (Hint: reference to His death and Resurrection).
The Mosaic law was a series of "do not do this and do not do that". They were laws of INACTION. Christ law was the exact opposite, and was the FIRST of any religion to preach a law of ACTION. It was not enough that we did nothing, we had to actively love. The priest and rabbi who passed the stricken man in Parable of the Good Samaritan were not breaking Mosaic law by passing the man. They were breaking Christ's. It is that sort of teaching which made Him appear so radical.
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- 2 ShepherdsLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
Things have gotten progressively worse and self-focused. 2Timothy 3:1-5 is not only about the church's wrong attitudes but about the society she needs to come out of:
2 Timothy 3:1-5
New International Version (NIV)
1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
- Anonymous9 years ago
have you ever read the bible.????? christ approves of the old testament: . "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NABthe old testament encourages genocide, human sacrifice, selling ur daughter to sex slavery, stoning disobbediant children, sexism and rape. Why didn't jesus stand up for the slaves instead of encouraging the teachings on how to have slaves.
- 9 years ago
It's an abhorrent message. It teaches that vicarious redemption is just and it teaches that it's okay to blame others for what someone else did. Can you imagine if our justice system used that nonsense? Also, Jesus said to hate your mother, father and everyone else in favor of an "imaginary" character. We should put real people before our delusions.
Edit: Not to mention Jesus brought "hell" with him. His daddy was a real pr!ck, but at least he just slaughtered people and was done with it. Jesus teaches that eternal torture is just for anyone that can't see the invisible. How in the hell can you claim that to be loving or just? From your perspective you will never understand, because your illogical brain can simply choose what to believe on a whim. I can't do that. My logical mind never even considers whether it's something I want to believe because emotions cloud your judgment with biases. The way my brain is wired I can only follow the evidence wherever it may lead and your imaginary friend has no more evidence than the thousands of other man made myths.
Atheists aren't against the nice things Jesus taught, but one doesn't need to worship an old book to know good morals. They are innate in our genes as a "group species". Pack animals need those morals to get along as a group. You forgot to mention all the intolerant and hateful BS in the Bible like this: "The FOOL hath said in his heart, There is no God. CORRUPT are they, and have done ABOMINABLE INEQUITY: there is NONE that doeth good."
A person would have to be pretty dense to not see why atheists might have a problem with such a disrespectful creed. Your Bible teaches that we are the "wicked and evil" dregs of humanity, so why would you expect us to welcome with open arms such unfounded slander, that has caused a negative stigma against us in society. I'm not saying all Christians treat atheists as the Bible tells them to, but the blatant disrespect and intolerance towards all non Christians taught in the Bible is undeniable.
Edit: Are you denying your Bible says we are blamed for Adam and Eve? Are you denying that your Bible says Jesus paid for your sins. That is vicarious redemption. Are you denying that your Bible says, " "The FOOL hath said in his heart, There is no God. CORRUPT are they, and have done ABOMINABLE INEQUITY: there is NONE that doeth good."? You are the one that doesn't have a clue. Of course I'm speaking nonsense, I'm talking about your fairy tale.
- Anonymous9 years ago
The problem is not the Message of Christ, but rather that some prefer a watered down version.
Jesus' message wasn't about love alone, His message also concerned the condition of man's heart; which was sinful before God.
Therefore to be right before God one must seek and ask Christ to forgive their sins..
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- Uncle WayneLv 79 years ago
Because churchie people usually follow Paul the bigot instead of the Beatitudes of Jesus.
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Use your own Bible and check-out these verses about Paul.
Jesus commends the church at Ephesus for discerning the lying apostles. Rev. 2:1,2.
Paul was the apostle to Ephesus. Eph.1:1.
Jesus not only referred to Paul as a fraud - he called him and his representatives "Liars"
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More about Paul: And how he contradicted himself.
Paul states that he does not lie. Rom.9:1; 2 Cor.11:31; Gal.1:20; 1 Tim.2:7.
Paul states that he does lie. Rom.3:7.
173. Paul said that he does not use trickery. 1 Thes.2:3.
Paul admits to using trickery. 2 Cor.12:16.
174. Paul says that circumcision is nothing. 1 Cor.7:19.
Paul says that circumcision is profitable. Rom.2:25; Rom.3:1,2.
175. Do not covet. Rom.7:7; Rom.13:9.
Paul says covet. 1 Cor.12:31; 1 Cor.14:39.
176. Paul teaches not to steal. Eph.4:28.
Paul admits to stealing. 2 Cor.11:8.
177. Paul was assured that he would not be hurt. Acts 18:9,10.
Paul was often physically abused. 2 Cor.11:23-27.
178. Paul states that the law is necessary. Rom.3:31.
Paul states that the law is not necessary. Rom.6:14.
179. Jesus said to go and baptize. Mt.28:19.
Paul said he was not sent to baptize. 1 Cor.1:17.
180. Paul said he was not sent to baptize but to preach. 1 Cor.1:17.
Paul baptized. 1 Cor.1:16.
181. Jesus said that he did not come to abolish the law. Mt.5:17-19.
Paul said otherwise. Eph.2:15.
182. Jesus said that God did not condemn the world. Jn. 3:17.
Paul said that God did condemn the world. Rom.5:18.
- ?Lv 79 years ago
Well that is the problem, that is NOT What Jesus taught.
He taught Love by Obedience and Love By Honor and Love By Holiness and Love by forsaking sin, and Love through and By Him, will Then there will be Love for all Mankind.
Problem is Man teaches that God /Jesus taught tolerance which is NOT true
Jesus taught Forsaking sin and ones self and taking up their cross and following Him and NOT be a partaker of others sin and sinful ways to COME OUT from among them and BE Separate
and its THAT which the Atheists refuse to do and come against ( they want to live in darkness rather then The Light ) and sadly its the very same thing people who claim to be "christians" do as well !!!
Source(s): Simple Bible Truth - Anonymous9 years ago
His message also including worshipping a mythical character called God and claims that he was something other than another delusional theist.
Edit: Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
You are just another cherry-picking Christian so blinded by the promise of eternal life that you cannot see the truth staring you right in the face. Jesus, if he really did exist, was not only a liar, but a lunatic as well.
- ?Lv 69 years ago
Most atheists are denouncing the message.
They are denouncing the idea of a supernatural "Daddy" that takes care of everything for us.
I won't go further than that since I am a theist. The atheists I know have a wide variety of beliefs but most of them just don't believe in a supernatural entity that has no factual evidence for its existence.
- ?Lv 79 years ago
He taught a slave morality of submission, obedience and dependence. He told his followers to give up their livelihoods and abandon their friends and family in order to prepare for the coming apocalypse. In short, he was a crazy cult leader.
Edit:
The "atheistic claptrap" I've been reading is called the Bible.
- ?Lv 49 years ago
Atheists can't force themselves to believe in something they do not find to be credible just like Christians can't force themselves to be atheists. What I personally find most reprehensible is that humanitarian non-Christians will go to hell, MEANWHILE CHRISTIAN RAPISTS, MURDERERS, AND SADISTS WILL VACATION IN HEAVEN (I MADE A TYPO.) There are many other Biblical teachings I find to be reprehensible.
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IT'S VERY HYPOCRITICAL!
Christs message of love only applies to Christians. Any "love" you show to non-Christians is very back handed, because in the end you believe they deserve to go to hell and you consider them to be fools.
According to the Bible Christians are not allowed to call/consider each other fools, but can consider anyone else fools simply due to not believing in their religion. It's very silly, snobby, and condescending to consider someone a fool due to belief/non belief.
Not okay
Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Completely okay
Psalm 14:1 "The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good."
Romans 1: 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,