A few questions about suicide?

Hey Ghost,

What a tough week. You did not mention if they were friends, but I can conclude this has shaken you.

When dealing with the mourners of suicides, our purity of religion is called on greatly. Nothing we are going to say is going to have any comfort unless we are on solid ground with God Almighty. In fact the most well meaning words will probably have the reverse effect.

Suicide is one of the favorite things to devils. To see a soul give up just makes their day. Be a friend to their family and try your best to remove any hard feelings you have for the dearly departed. Read James chapter 1 and seek purity.

One of the reasons I stayed at this site is because there are people who target suicidal folks in the Mental health category with just horrid attacks. There are people at this website right now seeking to murder people. I am doing what I can to counter it.

I hope that helped!

Depending of the people it could be something leading up to that like a bad life at home or something psychological. It had to be more than spite because nobody would do that over spite unless they were crazy, making psychological problems the reason, however it could have definitely played along with it. But I don't think any of them wanted to have those fights and maybe it was like the 'last straw' and it finally pushed them over the edge. They could've had it planned for a while and did it at a time they were most upset and not thinking it through very much. Why would they both have guns on them (do they hunt, do they always carry them, or was it for that purpose)?

This may sound corny, but it's the world we live in. Even the happiest of people will break under the smallest amount of pressure. I myself am a happy person on the outside, but on the inside I often think about suicide or running away…im not happy like i seem. These people may have just gotten sick of living in this cruel world, or maybe making the person they care about upset them so much they couldnt live with it. I know the feeling. Generaly the happier people are the nicer people that actually care about others, so when they make someone upset it really bothers them. I know im not really answering your question and im sorry, but maybe this scripture will help, that sounds corny to, but look them up please. Revalation 21:3,4. Were in a world thats really hard to live in, you know with all the war, death, suffering, hunger, cruelty, and sadness all around us. Some of us just cant take it anymore…

It seems that they felt extremly stressed out so they had to end it right then annd there or they maybe hurt someone or they don't one somebody to find out something cause it'll probaly leave leave a paw print on there life like hold secrets that's what they were probaly doing there only answer I guess was to leave this world and that was the answer they have chosen

Suicide is never the answer. It is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

In general, people try to kill themselves for six reasons:

1. They’re depressed. This is without question the most common reason people commit suicide. Severe depression is always accompanied by a pervasive sense of suffering as well as the belief that escape from it is hopeless. The pain of existence often becomes too much for severely depressed people to bear. The state of depression warps their thinking, allowing ideas like “Everyone would all be better off without me” to make rational sense. They shouldn’t be blamed for falling prey to such distorted thoughts any more than a heart patient should be blamed for experiencing chest pain: it’s simply the nature of their disease.

Because depression, as we all know, is almost always treatable, we should all seek to recognize its presence in our close friends and loved ones. Often people suffer with it silently, planning suicide without anyone ever knowing. Despite making both parties uncomfortable, inquiring directly about suicidal thoughts in my experience almost always yields an honest response. If you suspect someone might be depressed, don’t allow your tendency to deny the possibility of suicidal ideation prevent you from asking about it.

2. They’re psychotic. Malevolent inner voices often command self-destruction for unintelligible reasons. Psychosis is much harder to mask than depression — and arguably even more tragic. The worldwide incidence of schizophrenia is 1% and often strikes otherwise healthy, high-performing individuals, whose lives, though manageable with medication, never fulfill their original promise.

Schizophrenics are just as likely to talk freely about the voices commanding them to kill themselves as not, and also, in my experience, give honest answers about thoughts of suicide when asked directly. Psychosis, too, is treatable, and usually must be for a schizophrenic to be able to function at all. Untreated or poorly treated psychosis almost always requires hospital admission to a locked ward until the voices lose their commanding power.

3. They’re impulsive. Often related to drugs and alcohol, some people become maudlin and impulsively attempt to end their own lives. Once sobered and calmed, these people usually feel emphatically ashamed. The remorse is usually genuine, and whether or not they’ll ever attempt suicide again is unpredictable. They may try it again the very next time they become drunk or high, or never again in their lifetime. Hospital admission is therefore not usually indicated. Substance abuse and the underlying reasons for it are generally a greater concern in these people and should be addressed as aggressively as possible.

4. They’re crying out for help, and don’t know how else to get it. These people don’t usually want to die but do want to alert those around them that something is seriously wrong. They often don’t believe they will die, frequently choosing methods they don’t think can kill them in order to strike out at someone who’s hurt them—but are sometimes tragically misinformed. The prototypical example of this is a young teenage girl suffering genuine angst because of a relationship, either with a friend, boyfriend, or parent who swallows a bottle of Tylenol—not realizing that in high enough doses Tylenol causes irreversible liver damage.

I’ve watched more than one teenager die a horrible death in an ICU days after such an ingestion when remorse has already cured them of their desire to die and their true goal of alerting those close to them of their distress has been achieved.

5. They have a philosophical desire to die. The decision to commit suicide for some is based on a reasoned decision often motivated by the presence of a painful terminal illness from which little to no hope of reprieve exists. These people aren’t depressed, psychotic, maudlin, or crying out for help. They’re trying to take control of their destiny and alleviate their own suffering, which usually can only be done in death. They often look at their choice to commit suicide as a way to shorten a dying that will happen regardless. In my personal view, if such people are evaluated by a qualified professional who can reliably exclude the other possibilities for why suicide is desired, these people should be allowed to die at their own hands.

6. They’ve made a mistake. This is a recent, tragic phenomenon in which typically young people flirt with oxygen deprivation for the high it brings and simply go too far. The only defense against this, it seems to me, is education.