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' If ' God existed what is it?
Let's imagine (hypothetically for atheist and agnostics) that god exist. What is it? Don't tell me it's the creator because that does not tell what god is. Nor quote "I am" as it explains nothing. Now all you believers should have near the same answer at least if you share the same deity. Jesus, Mohammad, Yahweh, Jehovah, etc. are names. I am not looking for names. Please explain what god is?
Example if I asked what a human is you might say - A mammal, primate, homo sapiens etc. and go into a description of what you are talking about.
Now be careful if you say love I will fault you on it. Check back for additional details.
John Lennon said "God is a concept by which we measure all things." in the song imagine.
Silver 62 - I liked your answer but, then I looked up spirit.
Universe Bear - That defines the god of the Bible and Koran well.
? - Clever
Pilot - You rock girl.
Quo - I do not believe that is a description. It is telling something supposedly done. Before your so called god created the universe what was ' he ' god to? It's like saying humans make and use tools. It doesn't tell me what a human is.
Nous - You were doing so good up until the near end where you said "Agnostics have the intellect to see through the conditioning but lack the courage to throw of the conditioning entirely." I am an agnostic. I don't have a conditioning courage problem as you and some atheist think. I don't believe in deities or organized religions. Nor do I believe if a god existed it is a he, has a brain or is omniscience, or omnipotent. My question here is to further understand the meaning of the word god and to how it may be applied. As a agnostic I keep an open mind in that science may well hold the key. That the singularity may be the formation of "God" if you will for lack of a better word. As we move on to such things as DNA, RNA, fractals, the atom and such there seems to be an order to the Chaos following the expansion of the big bang. Everything does seem to be connected and Einstein himself felt that. I agree deities are no more than sky Santa s. I would not rule
out pantheism as a means of depicting god. Not that a god is needed but, if you are truly open minded you don't rule out as you said what can't be proved. I do not believe in heaven or hell. I do believe atoms are recycled that I came form the atom recycling bin of stars and such and will return the loan I have now of those atoms. Get over the issue that we are all afraid to let go because we accept the label agnostic. Furthermore if it was the case it doesn't help your cause to influence your point. It merely puts you in the same metaphoric realm as theist.
I am also an independent with moderate, liberal and conservative views. I am not afraid to identify with a party either they both suck.
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- ?Lv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
A delusion!
Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.
The bible is what is called "Faction" A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!
There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!
There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?
Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!
At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!
The Roman Emperor Constantine produced the bible and he was a pagan not god! He took the Jewish religion, organized it into Christianity and then into the Holly Roman Catholic Church!! Not in Israel or any of the countries of supposed origin but entirely ITALIAN!
Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?
What a wonder full disinformation and deception campaign he waged against his Jewish enemies by turning them into his invented Christianity - so good in fact that Christians are still following the deception to this day!
The first person to provide a shred of verifiable evidence for God will become world famous and mega rich! Ain't happened yet and it never will!
So how does this primitive belief in a god survive? The answer is simple and very down to Earth
Acceptance of a supernatural claim tends to promote cooperative social relationships. This communication demonstrates a willingness to accept, without skepticism, the influence of the speaker in a way similar to a child's acceptance of the influence of a parent. By encouraging this kind of behavior where the most intense social relationships occur it facilitates the lack of skepticism and deters more open minded thinking.
They are christian, Muslim or the other religions depending where they were born simply because they were indoctrinated by their parents as very young children. They will go on to indoctrinate their own children and those will go on to indoctrinate their grandchildren!
Atheists have the intellect to see through the conditioning and escape into the real world!
Agnostics have the intellect to see through the conditioning but lack the courage to throw of the conditioning entirely.
Sadly Christians, muslims and others are still held firmly prisoner by the self perpetuating brainwashing!
Source(s): University of Missouri-Columbia. Arizona State University - ?Lv 45 years ago
This is an age historical query that we would possibly or would possibly certainly not understand even after dying we would possibly certainly not understand. According to technological know-how, and Athiests, He does now not exist. According to devout varieties and folks with religion, He does exist. According to Agnostics, He would possibly or would possibly not exist. But now again to the establishing, if He does exist, might be someday He will exhibit himself or allow Himself identified to the folks, or within the Afterlife, because the Doctrine states, if you're well then you'll be allowed in Heaven whilst God lives. Although it is usually feasible that there is probably not an Afterlife however He nonetheless does exist for us to certainly not understand in any respect. Then there could also be the notion that He does on no account exist nor does Heaven exist, that is the Athiest notion of what God is. For myself individually, I do not feel I suppose in Heaven, up to I might without doubt love to, there may be simply not anything in my brain on the way to allow me suppose that Heaven exists and there are Angels with white gowns and peace for all the leisure of your submit existence on Earth time. Although, I do suppose there's a God, now not the God that's in pix with the white gown, lengthy beard, halo, and the whole lot else, however a few sort of better entity that we do not understand approximately and would possibly certainly not understand approximately, however I suppose there should be anything in the market that's extra robust than some thing else, a few entity that very nearly in all different phrases is...God.
- RamaLv 69 years ago
God's definition: eternal.. full in knowledge.. full in bliss (happiness.. pleasure).. with a form (posses-es a form )
top most adjective to describe God : "the most attractive" why ? b/c the most attractive includes fullness in renunciation..and renunciation is attractive to our hearts..
- QuoLv 59 years ago
I will give you an answer from the Bible rather than my own opinion.
All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. -Colossians 1:16b-17
The first part tells us He created everything. If He created everything then this means He IS the creator. You seem to be looking for descriptions of God, but I don't understand why you think the creator is not a description of Him.
Then it says, "He is before all things". Simply, this means He IS ruler over everything, in other words He is omnipotent, another description of God.
In any event, the last bit is the most interesting, "In Him all things consist" meaning everything (the entire universe) is held together by God. This would mean that He IS in control of everything.
So far we have described God as being creator, ruler and controller of everything (the universe).
If you were seeking physical descriptions, the Bible doesn't directly describe God the Father. Isaiah recognized God to be so Holy, he only describes that the train of his robe filled the Temple (Is. 6:1), angels cover their faces in the presence of God (Is. 6:2-3), Moses was instructed to not look upon the face, and he only saw God's glory (Exo. 33:18-23).
Paul States in 2 Cor 12:
"This boasting will do no good, but I must go on. I will reluctantly tell about visions and revelations from the Lord. I was caught up to the third heaven fourteen years ago. Whether I was in my body or out of my body, I don’t know—only God knows. Yes, only God knows whether I was in my body or outside my body. But I do know that I was caught up to paradise and heard things so astounding that they cannot be expressed in words, things no human is allowed to tell. That experience is worth boasting about, but I’m not going to do it."
What Paul saw was so astounding he would not dare speak about whatever he saw.
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- Anonymous9 years ago
He would be a hominid. Face it Christians, we weren't first here.
- PilotLv 59 years ago
My simple belief: God is a metaphor for that which transcends all levels of intellectual thought.
- SeanLv 69 years ago
Regardless of what he is, someone would have had to create him, so it makes no sense when people say he was always existing
- Anonymous9 years ago