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A question for atheists?
i posted this just a while ago. Here is my complete question answering the previous question of how free will is supernatural
how many of you atheists believe in soul or free will? If you do then how do you justify your belief since both are supernatural?
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@ all who claim free will isn't supernatural. Any thing which doesn't follow the laws of physics IS supernatural. free will relies on choices and ability to take decisions rationally based on that but laws of physics provide no choices.
@Taichou...when you drill down every subject will converge to physics. Neuroscience is just an abstract way to study cos it becomes toooooo complex if you dive deep.
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- UbermanLv 59 years agoFavorite Answer
The heisenberg uncertainty principle makes it theoretically possible for non-supernatural free will ish ness.
Personally i don't believe in free will. I think that Random and non-random (ie predictable in principle even if not in practice) is a true dichotemy, making free will either an illusion of randomness or an -in principle- predictable pattern that we don't know, may never know, or is perhaps too intricate to ever simulate.
- 9 years ago
I don't see how Free will is super natural?
For it to be such we would have to be able to make our own decisions in breaking laws of nature/Physics
And Say if i was Indeed an A-Theist Why would i believe in a Soul?
And Decisions made out of the law of physics don't make them super Natural.. The laws of physics have to do with Physics and physical things..Free will is not a tangible thing.
But still that does not make it Super natural?
Is our imagination supernatural?
What about Thought process?
Dreams?
No they're not just like Free will it comes from our Brain..
Is a Brain supernatural?
But claiming Free will is supernatural only makes you look Foolish and doesn't help you or anyone else.
Source(s): I'm a Theist and Wow some people just amaze me -.- - 9 years ago
Soul: concept that cannot be proved. Or has ever been confirmed. Or is likely to be confirmed. NO
Free Will: easily proven, just look around you. We can make decisions on our own. So yes, as long as you don't add the "god made it" bit
Not sure where you got the laws of physics/supernatural claim from. Neuroscience and psycology are totally different from physics. Just saying.
- 9 years ago
"Any thing which doesn't follow the laws of physics IS supernatural."
Wrong. Singularities don't follow the laws of physics.
"free will relies on choices and ability to take decisions rationally based on that but laws of physics provide no choices."
Wrong, according to quantum physics.
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- .Lv 79 years ago
Who says I dont believe in the supernatural? All I claim by being athiest (and I am truly more agnostic than athiest) is that I do not believe there is an all powerful god claiming to be about love testing us through our human life to see if we deserve some mythical treasure at the end of our lives. More specifically, I do not believe in the god of the bible or the koran. I do not believe in a god who sends his own son to murdered because of the mistakes the same god made in his own creation, while claiming to be about love and forgiveness.
All that being said... I believe soul is another term for the conscious and subconscious mind. As far as free will is concerned, I actually really dont believe in freewill. I am more of a determinist, philosophically speaking.
- ?Lv 79 years ago
you missed out LOADs of your education
"all who claim free will isn't supernatural. ....... that but laws of physics provide no choices."
Didn't bother with physics AT ALL did you?
physics predicts what will PROBABLY happen, NO result is CERTAIN.
"when you drill down every subject will converge to physics." No it doesn't
Theres chemistry, theres biochemistry
Your education missed out learning that they are NOT the same
- 9 years ago
Choices don't go against the laws of physics. Take Asimo (the robot by Honda), for example, This robot is capable of making fairly impressive array of choices without outside input. One of the latest models that they've been testing can even learn things all on it's own. So are you really saying that a Japanese car company created a machine that defies the laws of physics?
- goatslunchLv 69 years ago
Wow, you were so close to making sense.
Free will dose follow the laws of physics. At every point there is an infinite amount of possibilities and as an individual you get to choose the next step.
- 9 years ago
No on the soul. As for free will, there is an appearance of ability to make choices, but when you really think about it, the configuration of the neurons in your brain is the way it is because of the interaction with everything encountered... so not really. But a feature of that configuration is that it makes it seem like there is freedom of choice.
- Anonymous9 years ago
Free will is not supernatural it's just you not being forced to do something you don't want to do. It's a series of reactions in you brains that allow you to make decisions it has nothing to do whit the supernatural. No one has a soul they don't exist