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Is it time for a new American Civil War?
Now before you write me off as some kind of gun-toting redneck, I have an MA in History, and work as an author.
Having said that, I am starting to wonder if the divides in this country are simply becoming too deep to heal without bloodshed.
The last time we as a nation came to blows, it was over slavery. But, in a larger sense, it was about a fundamental disagreement regarding how the country needed to operate. And this divide was displayed in a dozen different arenas, from states' rights, to human rights, to collisions over manifest destiny. And while the nation has certainly grown up in the intervening century and a half, I have to wonder if things are just as bad now as they were in the 1850s.
I mean, just look at the stuff we disagree on.
Liberals: life begins when you're born.
Conservatives: life begins at conception.
Liberals: gun ownership needs to be heavily restricted.
Conservatives: gun ownership is an American right, designed to prevent abusive governments from seizing power.
Liberals: everyone needs to be multicultural. If you're not multicultural, you're a bigot.
Conservatives: become too multicultural, and you've got no culture left.
Liberals: the rich need to be brought down a peg, with higher taxes and larger social policies to support the working poor.
Conservatives: Working poor? You mean the poor that don't work? There are hundreds of stories of poor people with good ideas who became wealthy. It's the American dream. Why do we want to be like France, where the rich suffer over 50% tax rates, while the poor float along and live off welfare?
And I could go on, and on, and ON.
It reaches a certain point, at least for me, where I no longer see the other side as being American; where my views and their views are so diametrically opposed that I don't think of them as my countrymen -- only the enemy; that guy I simply can't stand; that person I don't even want to be in the same room with. And, at that point, I start to understand how brother could fight brother; how a nation could be torn apart over beliefs.
Don't get me wrong -- the Civil War was an American tragedy. Good people fought on both sides, and hundreds of thousands of bright young men (and women) lost their lives. But I doubt many of them would argue that the fight wasn't necessary -- that the problems weren't so deep; so impossible to sort out peacefully, that a war wasn't absolutely required to straighten out the mess. Like 10-year-old boys in a school yard, only by coming to blows could we ultimately work out our differences, and enjoy a period of respected that lasted until the 1960s.
And while yes, a new Civil War would have untold repercussions on the economy, our place in the larger world, and our outlook as a society, there comes a certain point when voting for the next snake to occupy the White House for four years -- regardless of his colors -- simply isn't going to cut it. What we have right now is a house divided, and I don't believe that it can be healed.
Anyone else feel the same way?
13 Answers
- Anonymous9 years agoFavorite Answer
You nailed it, and yes I feel the same way. However, I don't feel like it will ever happen like that again. People are too pacified by their creature comforts. Change that circumstance and perhaps if the rifts remain there might be a civil war in the offing.
I must point out that you spoke a modern heresy when you said good people fought on both sides of the civil war. You are not supposed to hold the opinion that any person fought for the confederacy that wasn't just there to keep blacks in chains. Every last man was the worst racist imaginable is what we are to believe and promote.
- Drone FodderLv 49 years ago
The only respect that existed between the 1860s and 1960s was the fear of the common enemy, the Germans, then Nazis and Japanese in the world wars and then the "commies" for those who bought into the hype. All else was a struggle between the privileged and not. Governments have tried to create an enemy with mixed results.
Wars seldom heal wounds without drastically changing one participant. (See WW2 where Germany and Japan changed fundamentally.) You still see people waving the confederate flag and some doing so keep the original values. I don't think social and political groups act in the same way as playground kids. Quite the contrary. Wars can create bitterness that divide people for generations.
- ?Lv 79 years ago
No. I think people need to learn how to respect each other's beliefs and quit trying to use the government to enforce their own personal standards on everyone else. Blood shed will work maybe in the short-run, but in the long-run, we will be divided again. Only when we can learn to respect the rights and liberties of our fellow individuals that we can live in a functioning, constructive society. Even if it means accepting that people will do things you don't like (like enter a same-sex marriage, own guns, smoke a joint, eat fattening foods, etc...).
Plus it isn't just liberals and conservatives. We also have libertarians, moderates, independents, etc... And that's just political ideology. We also have religion, culture, economics, etc... If we want to function as a society, we have to learn to get along. Plus, if we want to stand strong against foreign enemies, we must be able to stand as a unit in dangerous times. Right now, it doesn't seem we would be able to. Or if we did, it would be hard to stay a unit.
- ?Lv 79 years ago
No, I see nothing analogous to the regional differences that had made the Civl War of 1861-1865 possible. I do not see the west coast, the northeast, and upper midwest uniting with one another in a war against the rocky mountain, plains, and southern states.
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- George SLv 79 years ago
Sorry, but the twisted history you got from neo-Marxists and other bigots in the universities is horrendously distorted most particularly about the Civil War. That war was caused when oppressive tariffs were forced on southeastern states foreign tobacco and cotton trade to feed the huge hordes of my starving Irish relatives flooding into the Northeast. My relatives ravaged the economy there by undercutting wages with their giant swarms of excess labor.
Slavery was a hot issue since colonial days but not the one initiating secession. The war started when the Union prepared to blockade southern ports as reprisal for refusing the tariffs and seceding.
The war was fought mostly by my Catholic Irish relatives sent as cannon fodder by northeastern English descent merchants and financiers (the Marxists indoctrinating you aren't all wrong) to fight my Protestant Scots-Irish relatives dominating the Southeast. After, both Irish hordes -- with help from other immigrant European hordes -- flooded west still spewing babies and swept away the Mongol people here for 15,000 years.
Today, baby-spewing hordes in Asia, Latin America, and now Africa are undercutting wages to starvation levels again. There is certainly again a danger of more civil wars, revolutions, and eventually great wars of conquest. You are watching those begin now as they did a century ago before brand new high-tech industries soaked up the excess labor from the baby-spewing Euro-culture hordes.
When people overpopulate to the point they can no longer take the land and resources they must have just from other species, they must take them from other people.
PS: "Greedy capitalists" do suck workers blood, but they suck it from the floor. Overpopulating excess labor cuts each others' throats by undercutting each others' wages.
PPS: Many of your professors went to school at six years of age but never left. Too many still think like six year old children. They still love the fairy tales with good "witches" and bad ones.
Source(s): For decades I studied philosophies, cultures, and social institutions. I began that because of confusion resulting from my military experience under the shadow of neo-Marxist anti-military and anti-capitalism indoctrination in the universities. I continue a forty year quest wading through the huge pile of stinking crap a wide variety of bigots piled on top of truth hiding it from nearly everyone's view. The pile was made by blaming people they don't like while excusing people they do like regardless of where the fault really lies. - Anonymous9 years ago
Every culture eventually collapses, all in the same general manner and for the same general reasons. Here is a free book explaining the process and analyzing every cultural collapse in history: http://comingdarkage.blogspot.com/
As for your question, what you do is grab your gun and run into the street and yell "I'm mad as h*ll and I'm not going to take it any more!" If you are the only nut with a gun yelling in the street, it's not time yet. Shut up and go back inside.
- 9 years ago
The US is far too big to be one united country. Most regions don't agree on many things (South and North are mostly opposite when it comes to fiscal and social issues). It should be split up into 5 relatively large countries (Northeast, South, Midwest, Southwest/Plains, West Coast + Al.&Ha). However a war isn't the answer. Remember what happened last time?
Source(s): Civil War - Anonymous9 years ago
Accept reality of one own's choice or leave them alone. Simple as that. If one believes that life begins at conception, well that's their choice or if life begins when you're born. Let them believe what they want. All I can say is this. "Love your neighbor, yet don't pull down your hedge." - Benjamin Franklin
Best quote ever invented to stop wars/madness.