Christians: Have you heard of Jewish Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri saying Jesus was messiah and coming back soon?

You do know the so called note has been proven a fake. LOL

He was paralysed from a stroke (it happens when you are a mere 106 years old) and physically incapable of writing anything at all.

Heh, but the story has become beloved of missionaries since they really would love to find any hint that Jews are buying into Christianity despite all evidence to the contrary

Maybe you should make sure that he was, in fact, referring to Jesus, before claiming he was.

While not the most reliable of sources, WND has an article on this. It seems some of your details on this are not accurate.

http://www.wnd.com/2007/05/41669/

It seems to me that if R' Kaduri had wanted to affirm the fact that in the last year of his life he became a Meshumad (heretic) then he would be more explicit in saying so.

For the record, being a rabbi, R' Kaduri very well knew the Halacha (Jewish law) that a Jew who believes in Jesus is a heretic. Thus, either you would have us believe that he had a change of heart at age 110 but was not explicit enough to say so unambiguously or that your interpretation of it referring to Jesus is simply not true.

To me, the later seems more plausible. It is also born out by the fact that his own son and his followers say it is not true.

Update:

" Perhaps this note was Kaduri's way of telling the world he DID believe in Jesus."

Well, lets look at the evidence then.

On one hand you have...

- A note that may or may not have been written by him

- A note that does NOT say explicitly or implicitly that he believes Jesus is the Messiah but that was "interpreted" by some people to reference Jesus.

On the other hand, we have...

- He never told anyone he believed Jesus is the Messiah

- His family, his followers, and his students have all (without exception) said that he did not say or imply that Jesus is the Messiah

- He did explicitly say that the Messiah would be "flesh and blood" and made other statements about the Messiah that are consistent with JEWISH belief. (i.e. not the Christological belief).

- It also doesn't pass the basic "smell test", as they say.

So, it is clear to me that R' Kaduri never meant to say that Jesus was the Messiah (assuming he even wrote the note) and that anything to the contrary is mere speculation for which there is NO REAL EVIDENCE.

Rabbi Kaduri Jesus

This story first broke against xtians who call themselves "messianic Jews" and they twist everything around.

Think about it....if your theory is right and he believed jesus was the messiah, then he condemned himself to hell by denying jesus was the messiah while he was alive. People seem to want to put so much stock in a word on a paper that he probably didn't write but don't logically think it out. The Rabbi "saw jesus was the messiah" but did not convert to xtianity and denied (as all Jews do) that jesus is the messiah. We Jews are concerned about our souls but if this was to be believed, then he knowingly doomed himself to hell because in xtian theology to deny jesus is to doom yourself.

This type of stuff is why "messianic jews" are so dangerous. They do not speak for Jews. They are not Jewish. As for reporters talking about it, most are secular Jews and a few are xtian and some were "messianic" and lets face it, its a controversial story sells papers.

I am Jewish and studied this and its "much ado about nonsense".

You quoting Matthew shows you are xtian and so you want this story to be true. You might go back and study history. Every generation has though their world was going to end soon using xtian texts. The black plague, the fall of the Roman empire, WW2 etc etc.

Actually "messianic jews" have a real bad habit of telling people they are Jewish and leaving off the "messianic" part because it plays better to real Jews. Yes people leave islam because they decide it is not correct, the same reason you leave any faith. You are saying the opposite. You are implying Kaduri believed in jesus and yet he would have denied jesus, therefore putting his soul in jeopardy, therefore, common sense would say this is false.

You go ahead and keep watching the news and join all those for the last 1000 years thinking the world was going to end. Good luck with that.

This is a good question. I have debated this with several people an I can tell you that what they say is simply "You do not know the Old Testament like you think you do". They are right. I do not know the "Old Testament" like the Christians. That is their book. The Torah is ours and how we interpret it has been handed down through the ages. Jesus fulfilled none of the prophesies so he cannot be the Messiah and no, there is nothing in the Torah about the Messiah coming a second time.

Just for full discolosure: You are reporting an ALLEGATION.

It has all the marks of a good urban legend, a bit of truth with a bit of fantasy all wrapped up in a hope and a dream.

He was a mystic.

I believe he may have said that he met the messiah. In Judaism, this is not uncommon. Judaism holds that in every generation, someone is alive who could become the messiah if the world becomes ready.

But, the story about a paper is just hearsay. We do know that someone "surfaced" with a note allegedly written by him. But, the handwriting is not his handwriting. And his son says the story is a hoax. I did a bit of googling on this once. If I recall correctly, even the note itself does NOT spell out Jesus or Yehoshua as a acrostic.

I heard of it a year or so ago. If, as you say, it has been PROVEN a fake, please cite your sources for that. The rabbi was 108, not 106. I've not seen any article saying he was paralyzed. But it sounds as tho his visions may have been of the FIRST coming; his other comments suggest that and certainly don't resemble the biblical account of the Second.

Now that this is of the past, Ariel Sharon passed on Jan. 11 2014, let us look at it in a greater light. Many of Keduris disciples are now professing Christians. Last year were three Hairy stars (kometus aster). The first PANSTARRS, the second ISON, the thrid lovejoy. Two significant dates of comets: the discovery date and the perihelion; the closest encounter to the sun. Panstarrs was discovered two days before Pentecost in the Hebrew calendar in 2011. In 2013, its perihelion was 2 days before Nisan 1, the beginning of the harvest calendar of the jews. ISON was discovered on Shabatt Shuva, Sept 21, 2012. Shabat Shuva is the sabbath of the return. That day was also the World Peace day, set up by the UN. ISON's perihelion was Thanksgiving day which in a rare occasion happened to be the first day of the feast of thanksgiving of the Jews, Hanukkah. Lovejoy, was discovered also on Shabbat Shuva, the sabbath of the return. On that day according to the calendar and the Jews regular readings, Psalms 19 was read in the year 2013, when lovejoy was discovered. Psalms 19, begins; the heavens declare the glory of God.. they speak without language. In an unprecedented event, the dust of ISON from its approach to the sun and its encounter with the sun, came into the earths atmosphere at the same time, surrounding the earth completely. This occurred on January 12, one day after Ariel Sharons death of Janiary 11. This day also the G-6 met with Iran to discuss its nuclear program. Luke 21, tells us we should not listen to those who have said the end is near, until Jerusalem and the trampling of it by the gentiles is over; the time of the gentiles is fulfilled. That happened in 1967. A metonic cycle is 19 years and the times of the gentiles and the jewish calendar line up every 19 years. 1967 is 19 years from 1948, Can a nation be born in a day? Isa. 66. In Luke 21 Jesus said, after the Jews are in control of Jerusalem, their will be signs in the sun the moon and the stars; that there will be distress in the nations with confusion, and men would fear the things coming on the earth. The blood moon tetrads of 2014-15, and the eclipses of the sun on the first of AV, in three successive years, 2008-10, the final year one year prior to the discovery of Panstarrs, seem to mark this time. The antichrist will come first, a false God like Pan who came down from the mountains. Those who do not believe will be allowed to experience a great delusion that God allows, and will likely believe the antichrist is a Messiah figure for the world. Jesus, speaking of the Jews, says, then they (the Jews) will see the Son of man coming in the clouds, and for believers He says ; When these things begin to happen lift up your heads for your redemption draws nigh. The Word of God declares the end from the beginning and He does nothing without first revealing it to His prophets. These are those prophets beforehand as Peter tells us of this time in 2 Peter 3. All of this that is happening is in the Word. God's counsel will stand. For those with ears to hear and eyes to see, Jesus will come in as Cyrus also came in to deliver a remnant. Cyrus came in 70 years after Babylon came to power, and three years into Jehoiakim's reign the first jewish exile took place; 67 years later Cyrus came in . See Isa 44:28- Isa. 46. God is restoring Israels captivities in perfect order since 1492, and 25 years later 400 years and thirty years later 1947 the UN declared Israel a nation. 1948 began the restoration of the captivity of Babylon in perfect order. One captivity, or calamity is soon left, and that is the seven year period from the time Vespacion came in to Jerusalem, through the time Titus destroyed the temple to the time the siege ramp was built to Masada, and the last of the Jewish rulers were destroyed or committed suicide, the Sicarians. Jesus is coming soon for His bride, and later to rule and reign on this earth a 1000 years. Come to Jesus people !!!! This is all very real and prophecy is daily being fulfilled in this time.God loves you, and only the righteous shed blood of Jesus can cleanse you int the eyes of a HOLY God who has given us the way the truth and the life.

I don't give a shlt what that old idiot said about Jesus...we all know it's not true. He is just as false as his visions and just as false as Jesus was...let's be thankful they're both dead. And another thing; it's an insult to all other races on earth when we are told that we have to focus on the Jews and Israel in order to understand the times. I have my own race and culture to embrace and love and we don't believe in any of that messianic bullshlt. That horrible doctrine has been fvckin' the world up ever since it's false inception and it's about time the world starts denouncing it as horribly wrong. And Sharon's death will be just as insignificant as any other person's death is. It'll make world news and be forgotten the following month.

He did not say "Jesus", he said "Yehoshua", which

also means "Joshua".

I find it impossible to believe that a JEWISH Rabbi

meant "Jesus" - as that would make him a

Messianic Jew of sorts, thus rendering him

nothing but a Christian with a different label.

Edit - Ah, I see... there IS a difference. Thanks Mark.