Who's been behind more terrorist attacks in the USA- Palestinians or Zionists?

Beside JDL, Zionists are known for attacking their "friends" in order to blame it on their enemies and provoke them into attacking them! Google Lavon Affair (i know the example is not from the US but it is worth mentioning)! Imagine if the US wasn't Israel's best ally, you think the US would have been better off than Britain during the WWII?

Considering that the US has suffered no terrorist attacks from Zionists, the question might be moot. Of course, if you believe that Zionists did 9/11, started AIDS, and framed OJ, then you might think I'm wrong. But then again, maybe the Zionists just want you to believe they did all that, so they falsified the lack if evidence to convince the public they had covered up crimes they never committed.

Palstinians danced in the streets on 9/11.

Or was that also faked by the all-powerful Zionists?

I don't need to google JDL, I know about them. But maybe you should.

Although there was terrorism on American soil, it would be pretty hard to argue they were directed agaist the US. They were pretty much explicitly against the Soviet Union, Arab entities, or Neo-Nazis. The JDL never attempted to inspire a change in American policy using violence against Americans (some victims were also American citizens but were targeted because they were citizens/members of the above groups,) which is the definition of terrorism. This doesn't justify their actions, but America was not the target.

Rabbi Kahane, for the most part disavowed the attacks, unlike the leaders of Hezbollah or Hamas, who generally take credit. Before the Oslo accords, the PLO and the other organizations that now make up the PA would take credit also. And aside from anonymous phone calls claiming credit for the JDL (which, again, was denied by it's leadership,) very few attacks ever were linked to the JDL.

The most important distinction, of course is the fact that the Palestinian terrorist organizations can be called truly Palestinian because they run and participate in the Palestinian government. Hamas runs Gaza, Hezbollah represents Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, and the PLO/Fatah is the dominant party in the PA. Kahane's party was banned from participating in the Knesset because of their ideologies, and most Israelis don't approve of them. If a political organization is illegal in Israel, then they can hardly be called true Zionists.

Of course, this hardly matters to you. You are desperate to draw moral equivalency between Israel and Palestinian organizations.There has not been many attacks on America by Palestinians, because attacking America is difficult and needs a state-sponsor. The Palestinians do not have this, although people like you want to give them one.

By the way, according to Palestinian propaganda, America funds the "Zionist Occupiers," so Palestinians admit they hate America, even in their twisted version of things.

I don't know how many the Palestinians specifically have done, but here's a big one.

Sirhan Sirhan was a Palestinian with Jordanian citizenship born in British Mandate of Palestine in 1944 who murdered Robert F. Kennedy, Democratic Presidential candidate, Senator from NY and Attorney General.

America let his family emigrate and at age 24 in 1968 he murdered Robert F. Kennedy. Hubert Humphrey went on to get the Democratic nomination and lost to Richard Nixon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy

Robert Francis "Bobby" Kennedy (November 20, 1925 – June 6, 1968), also referred to by his initials RFK, was an American politician, a Democratic senator from New York, and a noted civil rights activist. An icon of modern American liberalism and member of the Kennedy family, he was a younger brother of President John F. Kennedy and acted as one of his advisors during his presidency. From 1961 to 1964, he was the U.S. Attorney General.

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I beg to differ with you guys, a terrorist doesn't have to be affiliated with a "terrorist" group when he's doing it for the "Palestinian cause." That individual has had plenty of role models showing him how to do it and the Palestinians brag about it. Unrelated to Sirhan to give other example, an individual ready to suicide bomb for Palestinian purposes?! He's a terrorist! Whether you count them or not in a group, they've openly volunteered themselves in that group. Sirhan Sirhan counts as a Palestinian terrorist.

That's a bit of faulty logic.

For example, even if all Palestinians hate the USA so much, that doesn't mean that they would be behind the most terror attacks. After all, there are unfortunately other groups out there as well.

Now, some lump in the Palestinians with the general Arabs/Muslims, because often times it's the same goals for the same reasons. You really do have to decide where the line should be drawn, since the label "Palestinian" might be what only distinguishes terrorist 1 from terrorist 2.

I don't know specific factors about Palestinian attacks on the USA, but I don't recall any Zionist ones. I know, you're shocked.

I do recall Palestinian ones, such as the assassination of Robert Kennedy by a Palestinian, and the recent Fort Hood massacre. Your mileage may very one whether or not to count Kennedy's death, since it's not really a terrorist action in and of itself (still murder though), and with Ft. Hood, it doesn't seem like they really know his motivations, but it could very well be a terrorist attack. Certainly as awful as one, if that counts for something. It's worth noting he was in contact with a known terrorist, it seems. In addition, don't forget about the 1997 attack in NYC, on the Empire State Building, which does seem to be politically influenced and what I may call a terrorist attack.

As for Zionists - that's a bit broad, since anyone could be a Zionist, but motivated to do something for other reasons. I presume you mean motivated by their Zionism, which I couldn't find.

I should note that I did do online research, and went by headlines. I did come across some conspiracy theory sites, which I omitted.

Now, I'm not in favor of labeling all Palestinians as American-haters. Though, I do have to point out your tone and potential intent of trying to make the Zionist look the same as others do with the Palestinians. Which, in that case, is just as bad, if not worse (since you are cognizant of one side) that what you rage against.

Now, I have to say that Palestinians are behind more attacks in the USA, when compared to Zionists. However, this is NOT to say they are responsible for the majority, nor should all Palestinians be judged by this fact. It's just in relation to Zionists.

Edit: Yes, I did. Though, I didn't claim he was Muslim. Perhaps I should clarify that they lump people in because of similarities, and some lump him in with Arabs knowing his Christian background. Still wrong.

Nidal's actions do trouble me. I didn't find a clear explanation of why he did it, and given other things I don't rule it out. Ali Kamal's actions were revealed to be motivated by the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, so that one's a bit hard to define. Potentially terrorist-related on both accounts, and I do say that the mindset for both may have been similar, at least in terms of regard for life.

I do admit I forgot about the JDL. Sorry - I so consider them un-Jewish that they didn't cross my mind.

But, hey, my criticism still stands - if you are doing the sh*tty thing and trying to equate Zionists with terrorists by this way, then I have to turn around and point out your hypocrisy. So far, the JDL doesn't come close to having the most attacks on the US, nor have theirs been the most deadly. So, they must not hate the US either, right? Well, according to "behind the most of the terror attacks in the USA" logic you present, which I'll plainly say is stupid.

Zionists are on record for condemning them. Palestinians are on record condemning theirs. I'm sorry you condemn the ignorance of one and ignore the other, which you seem to imply.

Neither,

US has enough idiots carrying guns.

some Palestinians hate the US enough to burn their flag, but aren't that stupid to attack it - that's what Al-Qaeda is for.

Please define Zionism. because as far as I know "Zionism" was an old dream to return to the land of Israel, rebuild it and flourish the desert. of course Jews have lived here before that dream became reality, so who exactly do you mean ?

or are you just throwing words in the air, hoping to raise havoc ?

You formulated question as “Palestinians or Zionists”, meaning Palestinians of any kind: muslims, christians or atheists. Also, your interpretation of the motives that moved the palsestinian terrorists to murder Americans are irrelevant first because you can not know them and second because your interpretation is biased.

A complete list of the American Victims of Palestinian Attacks is 12 pages long. You can find it here

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/American-V...

And I shall just mention the most notorious ones.

June 5, 1968: Presidential candidate Robert "Bobby" Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian Arab.

March 2, 1973, Khartoum, Sudan. Cleo A. Noel, Jr., U.S. ambassador to Sudan, and George C. Moore, also a U.S. diplomat, were held hostage and then killed by terrorists at the U.S. Embassy in Khartoum. Fatah was responsible for the attack.

September 8, 1974, Athens, Greece. TWA Flight 841, flying from Tel Aviv to New York, made a scheduled stop in Athens. Shortly after takeoff, it crashed into the Ionian Sea and all 88 passengers were killed, including 32-year-old Steven R. Lowe, husband Jeremiah Michel and wife, Kathrine Hadley Michel of Poughkeepsie, NY, Frederick and Margaret Hare of Bernardsville, NJ, Ralph H. Bosh of Madison, CT, Seldon and Etan Bard of Tuckahoe, NY, Dr. and Mrs. Frederick Stohlman of Newton, MA, Don H. Holiday of Mahwah, NJ, and Jon L. Chesire of Old Lyme, Ct; all of which were Almerican citizens. Palestinian Black September was responsible for the attack.

January 1, 1977, Beirut, Lebanon. Frances E. Meloy, U.S. ambassador to Lebanon, and Robert O.Waring, the U.S. economic counselor, were kidnapped by PFLP .They were later shot to death.

August 19, 1982, Paris, France. Two American citizens, Anne Van Zanten and Grace Cutler, were killed when the PLO bombed a Jewish restaurant in Paris.

September 20, 1984, Aukar, Lebanon. Palestinian Islamic Jihad detonate a van full of explosives 30 feet in front of the U.S. Embassy killing two U.S. servicemen and seven Lebanese employees, as well as 5 to 15 non-employees. Twenty Americans were injured, including U.S. Ambassador Reginald Bartholomew and visiting British Ambassador David Miers. An estimated 40 to 50 Lebanese were hurt.

March 30, 1986, Athens, Greece. A bomb exploded on a TWA flight from Rome as it approached Athens airport. The attack killed four U.S. citizens. Fatah was responsible for the attack

November 8, 1991, Beirut, Lebanon. A 100-kg car bomb destroyed the administration building of the American University in Beirut, killing one person and wounding at least a dozen. Palestinian Islamic Jihad was responsible for the attack.

October 9, 1994. Nachshon Wachsman, An American from new York, was kidnapped and then murdered by Hamas.

February 23, 1997, New York, United States. A Palestinian gunman opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State building in New York, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine."

It´s only about 10% of the total number of the terrorist attacks perpetrated by Palestinian arabs against Americans.

Remembering that Palestinian arabs make only 0.2% of the total muslim population of the world, we can not deny that they have achieved "outstanding results" in murdering Americans, especially civilian ones.

However, they arre still only 0.2%. Knowing that muslims all over the world hate USA (as the last events in all the muslim countries showed) , if we add to th palestinian- perpetrated attacks the attacks perpetrated against Americans by muslims in general, we shall have a book about 200 pages thick.

Would you be so kind to provide the list of the Zionist attacks against Americans? Take care to use official source please and save breath on your usual melodramatic rhetorics.

By the way, if you decide to drag the JDL in your question, then just for your information, to save you an embarrassment: the total number of the terrorist attacks by JDL founded in 1968 is just 18.

Since 1968, JDL operations have killed 7 persons and wounded at least 22. Thirty-nine percent of the targets were connected with the Soviet Union; 9 percent were Palestinian; 8 percent were Lebanese; 6 percent, Egyptian; 4 percent, French, Iranian, and Iraqi; 1 percent, Polish and German; and 23 percent were not connected with any states. " (Department of Energy, Terrorism in the United States and the Potential Threat to Nuclear Facilities, R-3351-DOE, January 1986, pp. 11-16).

So, no Americans at all.

Compared to the palestinian "achievements", that "JZionist terrorism" you are scaring us with looks like a Sunday boy scout picnick.

"Who's been behind more terrorist attacks in the USA?"

Muslims.

Neither committed a direct attack on the USA. Not sure what point you're trying to make here?

100% sure. Please don't start telling me that 9/11 was done by the Zionists.