disability comeback...please help!?

"Jealous?"

Or

Well no sorry can't use that kinda language here.

Just tell tell them their time is coming. And it is. Not everyone is lucky enough to be healthy enough to work til 65 or 67.

Check back later. I 'll try to see if I can uh 'clean them up a little' and retain the impact.

O k I found sound some clean ones, but I don t thinkt here that great. Judge for your self:

1 for each action there is an equal and opposte criticism.

2yeah disability so great! The last time I needed an operation and couldn't aford it the doctor was kind enough to 'touch up' the xrays.

3 If 4 out of 5 people suffer from diarrhea of the mouth.... does that mean that your the one of them enjoys it?(I m suffering inside because I could not say the real thing here you really would have loved it. Promise.)

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#4complex problems have simple easy-to-remember wrong answers.

#5who stopped payment on your reality check?!

#6the economy is in a downturn. You think everything that hits the fan is evenly distributed?(I work with jerks. Can you tell?)

More to come

#7 that's because we get just twopeolpe to chose the president of the U.S. but 50 for miss America

#8 "100,000 sperm and you were the fastest?

#9 your conclusions are just the place you got tired of thinking,

And if you just want to tick em off with out a legit arguement then :

#10 the disabled: we got what it takes to take what you got!!!

If you jsut have a website full of apathetic, jealous hateful people then #10 cause no one is there to listen anyway. They are just there to complain. If you know for a fact they think the disabled are just sitting around in the lap of luxary then it will really get under their skin.

If you are trying to have a legitamate argueement then DON'T use # 1 or #10 but do remember this:

Have your ammo ready(facts) because :

If the ememies are in range....then so are you.

Copy and paste your facts

One other peice of critical information:

If you can't convince them, then confuse them. this usually does the trick:the disabled aren't stealing anything, that s the governments job.

Good luck!

P.s. don't get down on the ssi people. It only makes you weaker. I pay into the system, I m disabled, I receive nothing. I work. They are not looking at it correctly. Ssi overload is not just a disability 'issue'. It is a societal 'issue'. What do I mean? One example is fetal alcohol symdrome. They are looking for a scapegoat. They should look in the mirror. How many people unknowingly conceive/carry while under the influence of what ever? They don't realize that behavior causes disfunction. It is a large slice of the pie. Lack of values, education, family support. It all feeds in to it. And yes I know not every child born diabled was conceived/carried in that manner. Am saying it contributes more than what anybody cares to look for. All they know is it hasn't happened to them yet. Let's not blame the kid itself, ok?

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it is often lack of information. it is marvelous how a lot of human beings do no longer understand that no longer all disabilities are seen. Many varieties of actual disabilities are invisible to the bare eye and of direction many psychological disabilities are besides. additionally, with the aid of fact some disabilities are extra obtrusive and visual than others, human beings tend to straight away undergo in recommendations first those they actually SEE each and every so often. they in specific circumstances see human beings in wheelchairs, amputees or blind human beings as an occasion, so i assume it is organic that they spring to recommendations a lot extra straightforward than disabilities like discomfort, psychological ailments, gaining information of disabilities and different invisible disabilities.

yeah and what about me ..i just ask a question about ssi while waiting 5 full months for ssdi. i got approved for both. and got BLASTED for being a free loader i worked my whole life paying in. i didn't ask for a sudden near death experience and i didn't ask for entitlements . the hospital did. (doc specialists). i wasn't financially prepared for such a disaster. sorry... i am not wealthy.. not to say i didn't try. and i did try to go back to work...and fell flat on my face, for all to see. i am disabled whether i or any one likes it or not. and i appreciate the ssi waiting for ssdi. . thank god our country has mercy... i feel no shame. so yes ....thank-you for your question . i watch this forum and see the resentment the crabby and the self righteous opinions . this forum is for disability answers not to be ridiculed. life is up-side down when trying to figure out How your going to survive on such little money. the last thing any body needs is to be Kicked while down and out. but i must say..... i do appreciate some of the imput and people sharing their wisdom and expertise . they know who they are and stand out as the "Wise"

Yeah, in my case, most of them are family, too. I just comeback with "like me?"

Then they babble away, back petal, freak, and try to cover their tracks with "Not like you. You're different."

Then I usually answer something like, "Oh, then, like my hubby?"

Since half my family became my family, because I married him, and they all know he was a hard worker before becoming disabled, they really have to back petal, hem-and-haw, and choke on their apologizes, even if they just give up and remain quiet.

I let them stew for a day or two and then add something like, "That's what I thought. When it becomes personal, then it's different. For those of us disabled, it's always personal."

About a year or two later, they forget and go back to their self-righteous banter again. At that time, I merely add "like me?" Then they remember how the last conversation went. They don't learn, until/if it happens to them. At that time, I figure they'll come running to me. I will help. They are family and I do love them, despite their stupidity. No one learns though.

Maybe one day you will. It really doesn't matter if we paid into it or not. If people are in need, they're in need. Since people don't help them, it is the government's responsibility. That is a sad statement on humanity.

Added after reading other answerers:

WTF? Who gave self-righteous weeny thumbs up for putting down people on SSI? Reality check. SSI is usually for those born with disabilities or who became disabled way, way, WAY too early. Those of us on SSD lucked out. We were born healthy enough to work and we worked long enough to make the guidelines for SSDI. It's not a popularity contest. We don't deserve it any more than SSI people deserve money. We aren't special. We didn't necessarily do everything right. Matter of fact, some of us did everything right and STILL ended up on disability, so we have absolutely NO room to bash anyone who didn't luck out like we did. This isn't a statement of how smart we were. SHlT happens. Everyone of us are here, because we became disabled some time in our life - some at birth, some later. We're still all people, and we all contribute, even if we can't work and can't do as much as abled people do. Seriously? WTF?

I'm suddenly missing trolls on this board, because they make more sense then this crap!

(And, Cindy. You'll start figuring out it's not about being disabled. There are jerks in any group, including disabled, but most grief you get on here aren't from the disabled. Most. Just keep remembering, we're allowed to be jerks, too. lol)

SSI recipients give SSDI recipients a bad name.

The public is uninformed.

2.6% of the population receivers SSI.

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparemaptable.js...

4.6% receive SSDI.

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparemaptable.js...

About 25% of the SSI recipients do get a small amount of SSDI. They worked a little, not much.

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/ssi_sc/

So putting the SSDI and SSI people in one group, close to half are 'welfare freeloaders'.

$50 Billion a year to SSI.

Here is one possible angle for you.

Get to know about SSI, and point out that you are NOT SSI. You paid into an insurance program, not unlike homeowners insurance, and now you are collecting.

That angle may not work for you, just a suggestion.

INFO:

SSI annual report:

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/ssir/SSI11/index.html

SSI disability trends:

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/chartbooks/disabili...

SSI children - a huge problem:

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v66n2/v66n2p21....

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No one liner I can think of.

SSI money comes from the general fund, not social security. They didn't 'pay for' their benefits.

You 'paid the premiums' (FICA tax) all those years, now you are collecting.

Most SSDI are for physical disabilities, but most SSI are mental issues, many real, (low IQ, anti-social, etc) many faked.

If your income is too high for food stamps, etc., you can point that out.

Good luck, hope you are willing to take the education route.

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Massive institutions is a wonderful idea.

No street drugs, no alcohol, 9:00 curfew, watch the SSI people line up - to have their case CLOSED.

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v66n2/v66n2p21....

It is a much abused system.

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/chartbooks/disabili...

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v66n2/v66n2p21....

I just inform them that EVERYONE is at risk of becoming " one of us" and I mean EVERYONE! Anyone can be in perfect health one day, and let's say get hit by a car, bit by a spider (and get seriously ill), even get a paper cut that can turn into a serious infection causing them to lose their finger, and that could turn gangrene and they could lose their arm, etc. You never know anything can happen. No one is immune. That includes them, their spouse, their kids etc

Maybe you should think about your own prejudices that are apparent in the way you worded your question. You paid to get your benefits which you evidently thinks means you are entitled to them more than a person who did not work for them. But we all work so that people who are unable to work are cared for. This could be accomplished in many ways. We could have massive institutions that house people who cannot support themselves - that way we as a government entity would be required to provide them with adequate shelter, clothing, and food. This costs triple what SSI costs. But we could do that. Would you and others feel better if we gave people their basic needs at no costs versus giving them a basic cost of living benefit? BTW - for the uninformed that IS socialism. That is unless we want the destitute living on the streets and begging like they do in India and other third world countries. If you have money every direction you walk people are standing with their hands out.

SSI gives people opportunity, though limited, to move forward. It lets people hold onto a tiny bit of dignity and pride. SO stop making yourself out to be better than a person who did not work for their benefits.

you could tell them

Heaven help you if Karma decides to kick you in the butt & allow you the opportunity to walk a mile in my shoes.... what will happen to you if something catastrophic takes our your health.... will you live homeless or will you apply for benefits?