Are pro-Israelis supportive of settler land theft?

Well I think merc's answer is a good response. A perfect illustration of what you're talking about.

First I never stated the spring was the towns only water supply. (and yes many Palestinians have to haul water still due to water restrictions- but I do not claim that to be the case in this instance) However your source DOES claim "פתאום אנו מוצאים את המקום ככה, מה שמהווה תקדים ויכול להעיד על מה שיהיה בעתיד באשר לאדמות אחרות", הסביר" So the Palestinians WERE using the spring.

Second whether or not there's a spring down the road is moot. I can't take over my neighbours property because he own a plot down the road.

Third- governments all over the world have given land for free to ingratiate people, it's their right and was done in the USA, Canada AND Israel. That doesn't invalidate ownership.

Fourth, your answer posted was incorrect, settlers use FAR more water that Palestinians, despite having less population. Palestinians face water rationing, settlers have sprinkler systems and green lawns.

Fifth- you neglect to mention settlers threatening the Palestinians come to use the spring, at gunpoint nor can I see your source that shots were fired from the mother's house. However the IDF has killed a little boy by shooting him in the head.

Sixth- the spring was shared, until settlers erected a shed and threatened Palestinians who tried to use it- funny you left that out. It was the shed the Palestinians burnt, and another immediately erected.

Seems you left out a lot, like the fact that even YOUR SOURCE admits that ALL the surrounding property is private Palestinian land and that the the spring is under review- but even if the courts decide in the Palestinians favour this usually doesn't deter the settlers.

Settler attacks and occupation is on the rise this is well documented. So much show that even the word "terrorist" is being used to describe the escalating violence by the settlers.

@ishnichmad WHO'S guilty of dumping raw sewage? http://stephensizer.blogspot.ca/2012/10/sewage-in-...

Interesting...I haven't heard ONE Israeli supporter condemn settler land theft.

Who stated there's no land theft by settlers? That isn't an computerized assertion from a professional Israeli. Israeli or professional Israeli is not the same as settler. Settlers are less than 5% of the Israeli population. The federal government helps them on the grounds that Sheldon Adelson is bribing the politicians. ---------------------------------------... What does the Torah and Talmud have to do with me? I'm secular like virtually all of Israel. You have got an awfully meager understanding of Israel, however various enthusiasm for strategies and not using a backing in details. If you want to understand if I suppose it is correct or mistaken, you're going to have got to ask a brand new query. I've answered your normal query. The new query may be very complicated and deserves its possess thread. The query of legality is a 3rd question. For those who preserve leaping from one subject to one more, you'll by no means achieve a right figuring out of whatever. ------------------------ looking to answer you to the factor - apparently you might be either unwilling or unable to comprehend. No longer seeing the point in answering to any extent further questions from you. Perhaps I was too speedy to classify you as a non troll.

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(He published it just before Sabbath, which makes it harder for all of us to participate.)

@michardav intentionally uses emotional arguments, but these are often false or irrelevant.

For example, he claims the spring is "the town's water supply" (in a previous post he even said "fresh water", and capitalized it, to make it more emotional: as if the demonic Jews withhold drinking water form the Palis). That's false: first, there are no pipes pulling water from the spring to the town (or else the Palis wouldn't have difficulties proving hold on the spring). You also didn't see lines of Palis carrying water jugs to their town (as was done 100 years ago).

@michardav also "neglects" to mention there's ANOTHER spring just across the road used by the Palis. BTW, according to a comment (#15) at [1], it's that *other* spring, and not the one at hand, which is private property.

(I should also mention that "private property" is a dubious device in the West Bank: The Jordanian rulers (the Hashemite minority) gave lands for free to village heads to ingratiate them. They didn't *pay* for it and wouldn't have paid for it (a land they didn't work and which was often far from the village). The state of Israel could have (and should have!) ignored any such pseudo deeds to the land, which even the Pali descendants have no idea existed.)

@michardav picks this spring affair because we humans regard springs/water as sacred and so the Israelis necessarily seem the demons here. However, it turns out Palis don't quite respect water resources: see my answer at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylv=3?qid... that shows the Israelis are more than fair to the Palis in these matters. See also @ishnichmad's answer.

@michardav mentions the poor, poor parents of the children, neglecting to mention that from the house of that poor parent, Bassem Tamimi, twice in the past shots were fired at the neighboring Jewish town. Also interesting is that you see in the videos these poor parents shoving kids into the soldiers. Shoving in a *very* unloving fashion.

@michardav also says the settles refuse to allow Palis access to the spring. That's not how things went according to the settlers. According to them (see [2], comment 14), the site was shared peacefully by Jews and Arabs for more than two decades, until things turned sour when Activists/Leftists came and incited the Palis.

If the spring indeed belongs to the Palis, there are ways to solve the problem. E.g., the Israeli courts. Such things have happened in the past (and present). The problem is that the activists turn this into a violent confrontation, and when violent is involved security measures have to be brought into the picture encroaching on the rights of everybody. Now the object isn't a land registration issue but Jihad. Allahu Akbar. La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammad Rasul Allah. Look at the videos: the youngsters want Jihad, not spring. They say they want the Jewish town dismantled. One protester was already killed. The soil is now defiled by blood. Alas!

Bassem Tamimi, michardav's model parent, seems hell bent on preventing *any* cooperation between Jews and Arabs, waging a war against a supermarket in which Jews and Arabs work side by side ( http://bbcwatch.org/2012/11/08/bbc-uses-photo-of-e... ).

@michardav also neglects to mention that the Arab protesters burn the place of the spring in the 6 minutes video. It reminds me of them burning Joseph's tomb. Ironically, the Palis seem to have a proclivity to burning things they say belong to them.

[1] http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3839256,00...

[2] http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4000722,00...

What settler land theft? Its not theft, it is deem 100% legal by the United Nations, actually UN is wrong in not condemning the Palestinian terrorism, and Palestinian rioting. Also they are wrong in condemning Palestinian whining, about the legal settlements.

"Are pro-Israelis supportive of settler land theft?"

I do not. I think the Israeli settler's lands should be free from theft by Palestinian invaders.

the way you put your question is anti Semitic since it assumes there is land theft.

israeli settlements in judea and samaria(for you the west bank) are built either on government land or land purchased from its previous owner.

where there is a dispute it is taken to court and if the land is proven to belong to someone else the settlement will be removed by force if necessary.

i don't know for sure the details of the spring you mentioned but i do know that it is far more complicated than it seems.

israel supplies twice as much water to the west bank than was agreed in the oslo agreements and because the population is growing and becoming more modern they require even more.

but they refuse to treat sewerage and so contaminate the watershed of the whole area.

its not just as simple as you think at first glance.

given the way you ask the question people see that you've already made you mind up and don't see any point in answering.

Yes they are supportive of settlers theft of the Palestinian land ......They would not admit it in public ....but certainly they know that the settlers are stealing Palestinians land ....still they support that ....

The Israeli culture comes from the Jewish culture, the tribal culture written for that specific group of people to keep the bond among them and against others.

You shouldn't be surprised when you read in their holy books when it speaks about ethics.

Take stealing as an example. For most of us, theft is theft no matter who is the thief and who is the victim.

The religious and cultural Jewish point of view has different rules.

1- If a Jews takes something that belong to another Jew, it is theft and the jew should be punished

2- If a non-Jew takes something that belong to a Jew it is theft and the non-Jew must be punished.

3- But if a Jew takes something that belongs to a non-Jew, it is not theft and he shouldn't be punished for it.

This rule is applied to all aspects of life. it is the same with adultery,lying, killing .... you name it

Yes.

They try and justify it by saying "it was theirs".