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If there is no land theft by settlers in the West Bank, how do pro-Israelis explain this article?
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/west...
I mean this is LITERALLY stealing the land!
It may seem humorous, but there is a more sinister agenda behind it. If the top soil is removed, the Palestinian crops fail, the now destitute farmers are forced to leave- and the settlers take the land.
@Bobby Joe, They are less than 5% of the population, yet control 2/3 of the West Bank. I'm still not hearing that they are WRONG to take the land! Isn't theft forbidden both in the Torah and Talmud?
@jonah, so Ha'aretz and the Israeli courts are lying? Is the IDF antisemitic? "The Spiegel report, commissioned by the Israeli Defense Ministry, found that some settlements deemed legal by Israel were illegal outposts, and that large portions of Ofra, Elon Moreh and Beit El were built on private Palestinian land" 1 February 2009, Haaretz, "Stop the Deceit and Whitewashing"
Actually the UN Security council AND world courts have ruled the settlements ILLEGAL. "Affirming once more that the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 12 August 1949 1/ is applicable to the Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem,
1. Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;&
http://www.jmcc.org/news.aspx?id=3486
@bbtalk, actually I said West Bank. And Israel issues "Palestinian" ID cards, or used to until recently. So that allows theft of private property?
So far NOT ONE pro-Israeli has condemned the theft.
@bobby Joe "no backing in facts"? Is the Ha'aretz article wrong? Am I mistaken in claiming that Israeli supporters often claim there is no land theft? It seems I either know more about the expropriation and outright theft of land in the West Bank or you're being deliberately obtuse. I use the Torah and Talmud because many of the settlers use a religious justification for the land theft- can't steal what is yours! Again the main point is this is an obvious theft, literally of land. So if there's no land theft as some claim, what is going on here?
@bobby Joe, so rather than answer the question, or provide evidence that I have "no backing in facts" you insult me.
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- DAN DANLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
Many Israelis have a serious cultural problem coming from their Zionist beliefs which don't see what is unwillingly taken from non-Israelis as an act of theft.
That colonial view had vanished everywhere in the world following WWII except in the Israeli mentality distorted by the medieval Zionist ideologies
- 5 years ago
Who stated there is no land theft through settlers? That's not an computerized statement from a reputable Israeli. Israeli or respectable Israeli just isn't the same as settler. Settlers are not up to 5% of the Israeli populace. The federal govt helps them due to the fact that Sheldon Adelson is bribing the politicians. ---------------------------------------.... What does the Torah and Talmud ought to do with me? I'm secular like essentially all of Israel. You will have acquired an enormously meager understanding of Israel, nevertheless quite a lot of enthusiasm for methods and no longer using a backing in small print. If you want to comprehend if I believe it is proper or mistaken, you're going to have bought to ask a brand new question. I've answered your ordinary query. The new question may be very problematic and deserves its possess thread. The question of legality is a 3rd question. For many who preserve leaping from one subject to an additional, you can by no means acquire a correct identifying of anything. ------------------------ watching to answer you to the component - apparently you perhaps both unwilling or unable to realize. Now not seeing the point in answering to any extent additional questions from you. Probably I was once too speedy to classify you as a non troll.
- pendletonLv 69 years ago
Who said there's no land theft by settlers?
That is not an automatic statement from a pro Israeli.
Israeli or pro Israeli is not the same as settler.
Settlers are less than 5% of the Israeli population.
The government supports them because Sheldon Adelson is bribing the politicians.
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What does the Torah and Talmud have to do with me?
I am secular like almost all of Israel.
You have a very meager understanding of Israel, but a lot of enthusiasm for ideas with no backing in facts.
If you want to know if I think it's right or wrong, you will have to ask a new question.
I've answered your original question.
The new question is very complicated and merits its own thread.
The question of legality is a third question.
If you keep jumping from one subject to another, you will never achieve a proper understanding of anything.
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Trying to answer you to the point - apparently you are either unwilling or unable to comprehend.
Not seeing the point in answering any more questions from you.
Perhaps I was too quick to classify you as a non troll.
- Anonymous9 years ago
The West Bank settlement are deemed legal under UN and International law. Israel is not breaking laws. To say Israel is breaking such laws, is anti-Israel, and antisemitic. The so called "Palestinians" share an unfair amount of land compared to the settlers. The settlers want peace and the illegal Arabs want a war and to wipe Jews off the face of the earth. The illegal Arabs shoot rockets into Israel. You think the illegal Arabs deserve to have their own state.
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- trancinguyLv 79 years ago
Talmudists are more numerous than flamboyant Zionists.
Source(s): Tribal Superiority Disease (Ethnocentrism) 1- the Self. 2- the Brother 3- the Cousin 4- the "Friend" - Hajj SameerLv 69 years ago
israelis and pro israelis do know that There is a theft on Palestinians land .....still ,they deny it , support it and defend it .......That makes them co-operative and even partners in the theft
- NabilLv 59 years ago
What can i say the Zionists in Y/A would defend their point of view to the point of stupidity, and then they have the nerve to say that they live in a Democracy.
What a buch of hypocrites !!!!!!!!!
I'm a Lebanese Jew.
- 9 years ago
You have to pay for the article or log in to read the whole thing? At least where I'm at. Don't you have one that we don't have to log into or pay for to read it?
Can you show me palestine on a map? There is no state of palestine, so how can anyone steal from it?
- Fenrir| •FT\√°Lv 59 years ago
They are cowards, pure and simple. Come to where I live and try to push me around, see if you don't get your teeth knocked out. No Yiddishy Police will stop me. Cowards!
