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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 9 years ago

Ron Paul says: "Our Constitution Has Failed", I say: "We have failed Our Constitution", ..?

... what say YOU?

Yes, Ron Paul is a political sweet-talker alright---romancing lady liberty and claiming to be a libertarian every chance he gets---and yet he was a candidate for President of the United States, as a Republican in both 2008 and 2012; especially, when he realized his Libertarian candidacy in 1988 went nowhere fast. ... Meanwhile, he remains a member of the Republican Party!

He also claims the following (most of which I agree with, BTW):

"All branches of our government today are controlled by individuals who use their power to undermine liberty and enhance the welfare/warfare state-and frequently their own wealth and power."

"The number one responsibility for each of us is to change ourselves with hope that others will follow," Paul said, urging an end to two motives that have hindered U.S. society: envy and intolerance.

"I have come to one firm conviction after these many years of trying to figure out the plain truth of things. The best chance for achieving peace and prosperity, for the maximum number of people worldwide, is to pursue the cause of liberty. If you find this to be a worthwhile message, spread it throughout the land."

http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-departs-constitutio...

YES, all this talk of "liberty", "the Constitution failing us", and what have you, AND YET he has conveniently forgotten to mention the FACT that the PATRIOT Act, THE MOST UNPATRIOTIC (and Anti-American) PIECE OF LEGISLATION EVER, was introduced by the likes of the Republican Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, and signed into law by no less than W himself (i.e. his power-hungry, money-hoarding, fear-peddling, warmongering, bible-thumping neocon Republican buddies -- the quintessential agents of destruction, greed, ignorance, and corruption).

It is NOT the Constitution that has failed us Mr. Paul; it's We, The People, who have failed the Constitution.

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Update:

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@ Libertarian Confederate -- I agree with what you're saying, BUT IF that's what he meant, why didn't he just come out and say so (in plain and unequivocal English)?! ... Are we to "interpret" his prophetic words, like the Bible is subject to the televangelical interpretations?? ... And what's with the active attempts at hypocrisy; to shield his neocon buddies?! ... No guts, no glory.

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Update 2:

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@ Libertarian Confederate -- I agree with what you're saying, BUT IF that's what he meant, why didn't he just come out and say so (in plain and unequivocal English)?! ... Are we to "interpret" his prophetic words, like the Bible is subject to the televangelical interpretations?? ... And what's with the active attempts at hypocrisy; to shield his neocon buddies?! ... No guts, no glory.

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  • 9 years ago
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    There is no way the founding fathers could have envisioned a world like we are now living in. They did however have a deep understanding of human nature which has not really changed that much. For instance, they knew that the government had to run in a secular setting. Not to diminish the right of each person to worship or not to worship as they please, They knew that most religions set standards of conduct that were beneficial to society. They knew if we allowed any religion or group within that religion to dictate policies which were counter to or effected negatively the beliefs or freedoms of others, whether these beliefs were secular or religious, there would be trouble. Human nature dictates that

    "My beliefs or feelings on any subject are the correct ones and everyone else should be made to conform."

    The forefathers wanted our country to be ruled through debate and reason. They knew there would be those on the extremes of any cause. But through compromise and mutual respect we would meet in the middle. Our political parties must function like a coalition government. There are many different thoughts that must come to a single conclusion if that party is to survive. If any group feels left out of the process, That group will seek alliances elsewhere. When a group is lost and allies with the other party the constitution has not failed. It has been reaffirmed.

    This is the failure of the Republican leadership. They have based their platform on ideologies which do not represent a majority. All this whining shows their weakness... They are afraid. And they have a good reason to be afraid. The constitution stands against them and it is a formidable force to battle against. The constitution is their enemy and they cannot defeat the will of the majority without defeating our constitution first.

    The rich cannot control our country because wealth is not considered at the ballot box. This is the reason the rich try to control us by corrupting our elected leaders. And it is working to a small degree. If they can only break a few more rules... maybe incumber the voting system... Throw 100's of millions into smearing the the good guys... Do evil deeds and blame it on the other side... You know as well as I how low they will stoop. I'm not surprised that they are now going to attack the constitution. It is all that stands between them and their goal... A hostile takeover of the United States of America.

  • 9 years ago

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  • 9 years ago

    A CEO, a Labor Union leader, and a middle management representative met one day to work out some company disputes. There was a box of cookies on the table and the CEO immediately took eleven of the dozen, then he turns to one of the other men and whispers, "Hey that guy is trying to take half of YOUR cookie".

    As long as a nation complacently accepts that heartless corporations are people.

    Then the people don't stand a chance.

  • 9 years ago

    I say we failed ourselves.

    Lots of good points there - lots of good answers. All I can add is - I think we started down sliding around the time when lobbyists were invented. It's not for, of and by the people anymore. It's for, of and by the dollar. Money controls us - we don't anymore. It's been put well here many ways already. Sure, the "little guy" can care all they want....until the people in charge start caring about the people again, we're pretty much screwed.

    (Heart-breaker!?! *gasp* To break your heart would be to break my own.... :(

    However - I got pocketfuls of crazy, so we're good there. ;P

    No way you get away that easy....consider me your personal "Krazy-Glue". LOL

    PS - Do you know how many cold showers that whole drooling in the pants fiasco caused???? LOL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCvv3Bm07Uw

    (Aw - I was touched by the Bill Withers tune....that made me feel so....wanted. :) )

    Love you!

    ((((((( < I > )))))))

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  • 9 years ago

    goodness me, it is not even my constitution (though i feel very fondly about it) and even i can see that you're absolutely right, it is the people (and not just americans) who have failed

    "The number one responsibility for each of us is to change ourselves with hope that others will follow," Paul said, urging an end to two motives that have hindered U.S. society: envy and intolerance

    it's right there, in his words, it's not the ideals (the constitution) it's envy and intolerance (just two of the many very human short-comings we possess and struggle to overcome).

    it's the same with human rights and the current fiasco we are facing here in the uk over the abu qatada affair. the terrible mishandling of this case is going to do untold damage to human rights (in terms of loss of support) and it's not human rights (again, the ideals we should be striving towards) which have failed but the application (human error).

    (((< I >)))

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Absolutely correct! It is the citizens of the United States who are responsible for the current state of America. We have continually voted politicians into office who put forth legislation taking us further and further away from the principles of our Founding Fathers. It is undeniable that We, The People, have failed the Constitution.

    With that said, the question remains: where do we go from here? It hardly seems that voting alone will bring back the principles that made this country great. We need a revolution. Our government is completely out of control. But what does a revolution in the 21st century look like?

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    I tend to agree that our Constitution has failed. I think that's been obvious from day one. George Washington said - rightfully - that political parties and partisanship would ruin any society. And then we drafted a Constitution based on winner-take-all elections, which basic game theory dictates will always come down to two candidates and therefore two parties.

    The majority of the world has realized this and rejected the model. Direct national elections are simply the wrong way to select a head of state.

  • 9 years ago

    I'd say that the democratic process is working as intended and that neither one of you is correct.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    How pretty....

  • 9 years ago

    Constitution may only fail by the fault of those responsible for using it. As it stands alone and unhindered due to existence, the responsibility falls on those interpreting and using it. Serious lapse in understanding. Constitution has not changed, the population using it has, and it is not used correctly.

    edit: If there were a test written to ascertain appropriate rights and application of individual rights, it would be next to impossible to get one written today, based on the original interpretation of the law. It is written in plain simple English for the common American, not legal professionals.

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