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Religious people: Can you prove that the gods of all other religions do not exist?

I notice some people ask atheists to prove god doesn't exist. I usually state that the theists have the burden of proof for their assertion that god exists.

However, this time, I was interested in asking religious people if they can prove that "god" doesn't exist. And "god", I mean all the other gods that aren't the god they worship.

Though I realize this may be asking for too much, I would prefer answers that do not rely upon the assumption that your religion is already true(i.e. my god is the true god, so other gods can not exist, my holy book says my god is the only god, so other gods do not exist, etc)

Update:

Tyrone R:

If someone said 2+2=8927, and even if I just said "prove it and I don't have to prove you are wrong", this would not negate the fact that 2+2 does not equal 8927.

However, atheists do offer many valid arguments as to why the concept of "god"(as many understand it) is not a reasonable belief. So, it's not like we are providing absolutely no justification for our non-belief, as you seem to believe.

Ok on to your question. You define god as the following:

"The real God is above life and death; cannot be hurt; does not have to fight; is omnipresent; cannot be tricked, manipulated, or forced to do anything not even by prayers; and does not need to sleep. Any entity that is all powerful, creator, and judge of our end is God by whatever name we call HIm."

Are you just assuming this? How do you know he has to have all these qualities?

You also state that gods take possession of everything they create. How do you know this?

And if multiple g

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  • 9 years ago
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    No, nor do I claim such proof when it comes to my own religion. I do not have empirical proof for the existence or non-existence of deities. My beliefs are simply that: beliefs. I'm not attempting to pass them off as scientific facts.

  • Josh K
    Lv 5
    9 years ago

    A God may exist, but I believe the Bible to be complete Bullshit. For a Theist to say that an Atheist has the burden of proof is also bullshit as you can't prove nonexistence. You can't prove the Bible to be true as ALL of the scriptures written are strictly Hearsay and none of the stories have been proven to be true (Some say there is proof of a great flood, but just because there was a flood doesn't mean some 800 year old man took two of every animal onto a boat), but you really can't prove it to be false either as just because there is no evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen (No one can prove I went to Dollar General, but that doesn't mean I didn't).

    People claim that non biblical mentions of Jesus prove his existence and since he existed that means the Bible is true. But Jesus is the English translation of the Greek name Iesus, which is the translation of the Hebrew name "Yeshua".Yeshua translated directly to English is Joshua. Joshua is a very common name, so just because there is a writing of someone named "Jesus" doesn't mean it's the savior everyone claims it to be. There was a writer named Jesus ben Sirach way back in the biblical times. ALL writings of Jesus Christ are dated many decades AFTER his death so they can't be taken as completely accurate

    The Testimonium Flavianum is said to be proof of Jesus' existence, but really it's a retelling of Luke 24:19. Josephus was repeating a story that he had heard or read about in the scripture. So The Testimonium Flavianum is actually of the Bible.

    Tactitus was said to have mentioned hm, but Tactitus wasn't even born till about 20 years AFTER Jesus died and didn't publish the passage about Jesus until about 80 years AFTER Jesus' supposed death. Odds are that he was reporting a story that a Christian told him. It is actually a Hearsay OF a Hearsay and as such, even if his writing itself is proven authentic, doesn't mean that it happened.

    It doesn't matter how many people tell the tale of Paul Bunyan and how long they've been telling the tale, that doesn't make him real. And if he DID exist, he certainly didn't do all the things attributed to him.

    I kind of trailed off of the subject a bit. But as my final point I will say: You can't prove or disprove any God or Goddess. If the existence of a deity makes sense to you, go ahead and believe. If it doesn't make sense, then don't believe.

  • 9 years ago

    That's simple: but first, the burden of proof is on atheists to prove atheism is right, and you can't. Atheism is just as silly as 'gods' other than the one true God. If someone says 2+2 = 8927, I don't say, "I don't believe you are right, so you must prove you are right. I don't have to prove you are wrong." That's silly. If I understand mathematics, then I can say this is wrong. Even if there were a one digit number plus another one digit number, I may not know exactly what the answer is with just that information, but I would know for sure it is not 2398 since the highest number you can get from adding one digit numbers is 18 (9+9). So your position on atheism and God is weak, cowardly, and/or lazy pseudo-intellectualism that admits to ignorance and pretends intelligence.

    On to the proof of your question:

    If there were indeed many gods, then everything they created they would take possession of it, and there would be chaos in the universe. The fact that we can determine things in the universe with reasonable degrees of accuracy point to just one God, by whatever name you call Him. This alone proves there must be only one God, and totally dismisses the notion of many gods.

    But if you want more details, you can look at the stories of the 'gods.' The 'gods' are called immortal, but Zeus had to be hidden from his father and feared a fight with his brother Poesidon in the Trojan war, Odin was killed in a great war, Krishna died as a man...the point is they all displayed mortal, not immortal, characteristics of fear of harm, and death contradicting the belief the people had in them. If the stories about them are true, then these 'gods' are not much more than super mortals. If the stories are not true, then the 'god' I am asked to believe in remains unknown since the stories don't represent them well. This shows that the ones spoken of are not 'gods' if they exist at all. A lot of them have been killed. Most of the Norse gods were killed in Ragnarok. If the do exist, then why should I fear them? Most of them have been outsmarted by regular people at one time or other. It would take too much time to give details, but look up Sisyphus.

    So:

    1. If they were real, then the universe would be in chaos, since they would take possession of what they created. This implies just one God, and destroys a notion of many gods.

    2. If the stories are true of the other 'gods' then they are mortal and no different than me, sharing the same origin of birth, and fate in death as me just more powerful (but maybe not since the goddess of love, the god of war were wounded by mortals according to the Trojan War). We as humans specialize in subjugating mortal creatures that are physically more powerful than us like lions, tigers, bears, elephants, and whales. Why should I worship a powerful mortal who I can likely wound or hurt; who could possibly be subjugated by some measure of cleverness (Sisyphus had the god of death Thanatos in chains and not enough people were dying, and this alarmed the other gods).

    The real God is above life and death; cannot be hurt; does not have to fight; is omnipresent; cannot be tricked, manipulated, or forced to do anything not even by prayers; and does not need to sleep. Any entity that is all powerful, creator, and judge of our end is God by whatever name we call HIm. The only thing left is what religion most accurately represents Him, but that's another matter. This is long enough.

  • Karl
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Proof? Can mankind even proof we exist at all?

    Can you prove you exist? or that there is air? or that the world exists? and how it all was done? if not then you have no proof. To prove we exist you have to prove: how it all happened, how it began, how we work or are designed and more. Can you prove all this?

    No one can prove anything, for it can always be another way. Nothing we have proves it must be this way or that way. This can be like the Matrix movies or a dream in itself or anything else.

    We believe we are real, but have no real proof. We believe many things, but have no real proof of any of it. We are taught to believe things, and nothing has absolute proof or is thus provable.

    Nothing can be proven to be absolute. Unless we have a creator, then this creator must be the only absolute we would have.

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  • ?
    Lv 5
    9 years ago

    "Though I realize this may be asking for too much, I would prefer answers that do not rely upon the assumption that your religion is already true(i.e. my god is the true god, so other gods can not exist, my holy book says my god is the only god, so other gods do not exist, etc)"

    Funny how every answer people did the exact same thing you talked about here, and to the idiots saying "you can't prove you exist you can't prove space exists" *sigh* I fear for the children of these people.

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  • NDMA
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    No reason to. The Bible speaks of many other gods, and the First Commandment indicates the Hebrews shall have no other gods before the God that brought them out of Egypt. No reason for such a commandment if there were no other gods. Anybody who believes the Bible believes there are other gods, but they also recognize there is only one Creator God who is supreme above all others.

    So the argument isn't my god is real yours is not. The argument is my Gods better than your god na na na na na!

  • ?
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    To start with, I'm actually NOT sure that the gods of other religions DON'T exist. Paul said that the gods of the heathen are demons, and that he doesn't want the Corinthians having commerce with demons. What precisely he MEANT by demons, I don't pretend to know. Could be actual spiritual beings, or it could be demons of the mind (considering HOW those other gods were typically worshiped, that's not such a stretch).

  • Mayn
    Lv 5
    9 years ago

    According to the Bible God admits that there are other gods and forbids his people from worshiping those other gods, i.e. the existence of other gods does not invalidate Christianity. I cannot speak for other religions.

  • Shrubs
    Lv 6
    9 years ago

    Can you prove that space itself truly exists? A vacuum we may be aware of. Something cannot exist in nothing, so would that not make space something? Something we cannot prove, yet we chose to believe in anyways?

    Could there be other realities of "space"? Maybe. But what we recognize is the one in which we live in and has helped us to live.

    I shall not deny the existence of other gods. I may not believe in them, but even if they do exist I will choose to follow the one true God, the God of all gods and the Lord of all kings.

  • 9 years ago

    Most religions have the same God, but they call Him different names. (God, Jehovah, Allah,Yaweh). There is a little bit of truth in every religion and even some truth in the sciences of athiests.

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